Manley vs VTL??


What is the difference? Aren't they the same people with two intermingled companies? I recall Manley amps being built by VTL with both names on the face plates. Does anyone know about these two companies? Does their gear sound the same?
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Manley: Mostly use EL34 for their amp. Have more variety on small amp and preamps. Ms Eva Manley is very helpful with excellent customer support. Manley amp looks fun
VTL: Almost use 6550 tubes in all of their new amp. Their amp looks neat.
David lives in France now. There was a rumor that he would once again start manufacturing amplifiers. Under what name your guess. Shaun from ESP loudspeakers also is near him and they are good friends that may have a venture together.
I had one listening experience with the VTL amps. I ended up buying the Manley Neo 250's. Ms. Manley "bent over backwards" to provide an audition opportunity before I purchased because there are no dealers in my state. She/their customer service has been outstanding since I purchased the amps.