Lightspeed Attenuator - Best Preamp Ever?


The question is a bit rhetorical. No preamp is the best ever, and much depends on system context. I am starting this thread beacuase there is a lot of info on this preamp in a Music First Audio Passive...thread, an Slagle AVC Modules...thread and wanted to be sure that information on this amazing product did not get lost in those threads.

I suspect that many folks may give this preamp a try at $450, direct from Australia, so I thought it would be good for current owners and future owners to have a place to describe their experience with this preamp.

It is a passive preamp that uses light LEDs, rather than mechanical contacts, to alter resistance and thereby attenuation of the source signal. It has been extremely hot in the DIY community, since the maker of this preamp provided gernerously provided information on how to make one. The trick is that while there are few parts, getting it done right, the matching of the parts is time consuming and tricky, and to boot, most of use would solder our fingers together if we tried. At $450, don't bother. It is cased in a small chassis that is fully shielded alloy, it gets it's RF sink earth via the interconnects. Vibration doesn't come into it as there is nothing to get vibrated as it's passive, even the active led's are immune as they are gas element, no filaments. The feet I attach are soft silicon/sorbethane compound anyway just in case.

This is not audio jewelry with bling, but solidly made and there is little room (if any) for audionervosa or tweaking.

So is this the best preamp ever? It might be if you have a single source (though you could use a switch box), your source is 2v or higher, your IC from pre-amp to amp is less than 2m to keep capaitance low, your amp is 5kohm input or higher (most any tube amp), and your amp is relatively sensitive (1v input sensitivity or lower v would be just right). In other words, within a passive friendly system (you do have to give this some thought), this is the finest passive preamp I have ever heard, and I have has many ranging form resistor-based to TVCs and AVCs.

In my system, with my equipment, I think it is the best I have heard passive or active, but I lean towards prefering preamp neutrality and transparency, without loosing musicality, dynamics, or the handling of low bass and highs.

If you own one, what are your impressions versus anything you have heard?

Is it the best ever? I suspect for some it may be, and to say that for a $450 product makes it stupidgood.
pubul57
Happy new year to you all, the 10kohm load impedance that Sony and some other are are saying about their output, is the minimum load that this output would be comfortable (mathematically) seeing. Not it's output impedance.
The only way to determin what the output impedance of it is, is to load the output to ground with different resistors unlit a 1k sine wave is halved in level, what ever that resistor is is also the output impedance of the unit as you have formed a voltage divider with the resistor to ground with the output impedance(resistance) of the unit.
Cheers George
Thanks George. I will not be able to measure it so will have to act on faith !
If 10k is the minimum load the Sony is comfortable seeing and the input impedance of the LSA is 10k, then I assume this could work out.

My Sony 900 also had the video outputs removed as well and the battery power supply. I think I had the remote too. When the Sony 900 mod was introduced by TRL about 5 or 6 years ago there were about a half dozen of these players available in SoCal that I snapped up for Paul. They were modding them up and the players were going out the door like hotcakes. I think it may be their best effort with a digital player.
For Sony to quote that this unit should see 10kohm or higher as the load, says to me that one, it could be tube output (which it's not), or that it has a 1k series output resitor (which is dumb to do), or that it maybe have a capacitor coupled output to stop any dc offset at switch on, or just when it's on, to stop it from taking out amps and speakers. Trouble is with is, some of todays amps at 2k or even 1k input impedance that capacitor would have to be 200uf odd to get the frequency response down to -3db @ 1hz, and a cheap bi-polar or plastic at those values could have very high ESR (series resistance) whch could be adding to the problem of not being able to take loads of less than 10kohms.

Cheers George
Next generation LSA or another opportunist copycat?

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