How much power is to much power?


When is an amp overkill for a speaker? More specifically, I have 91db speakers and I'm considering two SS amps, one 140 watts and the other 200 watts. Are they both too much? Is it too much simply because you're paying for extra power but don't need it, or because it's a detriment to the overall system sound?

Thanks.
128x128jtnicolosi

Yes, there's such a thing as 'too much power'. It all happens when your amp is so powerfull over your speakers that the sound is 'choked' and the speakers can't breathe.

I know many will disagree, but I experienced this phenomenon a few times along my audio years. Too much power and too little power is not a good thing.

I had to recently abandon a powerful 100 watter tube monoblock for a 30 watt stereo piece for just the same reasons. My speakers performed best with he 30 watter tube amp despite their spec numbers. Add to that, the sonics of the new amp were inherently better.

YMMV..!

AG
Baroque_lover,

Thanks for sharing your speaker info. I used to have a pair of Accoustic Zen Adagio speakers which are similar to yours. My 50Wpc KT88 monoblocks drove them with ease.

The much larger woofers in my JM Lab Alto Utopia need more current to drive. Consequently, you need a higher power amp.

Saying an amp is too powerful is like saying a car too fast, a girl too pretty, too much money, too much fun, etc. :-)
I'd love a pair of Pass X1000's(1000W), but they're too powerfull for my Merlins(250w).
>>'too much power'. It all happens when your amp is so powerfull over your speakers that the sound is 'choked' and the speakers can't breathe.<<

That folks, is really funny.

Stay away from this guy.
DF is limited at low frequencies by the choke in series with the woofer (0.08 Ohm typ.) to about 100 and by speaker wire inductance (0.5uH/ft typ) to about 10. It doesn't make much difference between DF=1000 or DF=4000.
Amp's DF at high frequncies is probably less important. Atmasphere, transformerless tube amp has DF=1.5 and the sound is exceptional (so I heard).

I would stay away from high DF amp (other than class D). High DF requires deep negative feedback - source of TIM and "transistor" sound.

Average power is only few percent of peak power. Only about 5% of this power goes to tweeter. It is rather difficult to destroy tweeter inspite of its small size. Tweeter gets damaged if you play test tones too loud, when your amp is saturating (flattened peaks=square wave=energy in high frequencies) or when your amp (or source) is oscillating at high frequency. The most common is damage caused by saturation when amp has not enough power. The best solution for that is to get amp higher rated than speakers or the amp with so called "soft clipping". Then you will loose woofer, midrange and the tweeter at the same time (just kidding).

Magfan - I've never had Maggies (space issue) but your efficiency doesn't look so bad. What is specified (SPL) at 1m is different at 5m. Typical speaker (point source) drops 6db when distance is doubled, but maggies are not the point source and drop is probably less than 6dB.

As for incredibly high power needed (according to article)at point of speakers impedance drop it is not so bad. The most of power demand in music comes at low frequncies (just look at the size of the woofer)and impedance drop is probably around 200Hz (most likely higher) - only fraction of peak power.