Anyone using the Transistor Research LabsM 225's

I did not hear the SE version.

I have heard the latest D225 stereo amp compared to the Samson mono's. As good as the D225 is, trust me when I say the Samsons are a step forward. The main reason is the new power supply. Also, each mono amp has the same sized transformer as used in the one stereo amp. There is also more room to work inside the monos making for better layout etc.

I did not hear the SE version of the Nuforce amps, but it seems Ecruz thinks even the D225 amp surpassed it. My old ST225 integrated TRL amp bested the combination of Canary CA339 monoblock tube amps ($14,000) and a fully loaded Audio Horizons 2.1 tube preamp ($3200). My old ST225 integrated is not nearly as good as the Samson and Dude!

I wish I had tried the Nuforce SE's so I could have more first hand experience with those amps.

12-22-08: Grannyring

I did not hear the SE version of the Nuforce amps, but it seems Ecruz thinks even the D225 amp surpassed it.

Ecruz stated he did not hear the SE version of the NuForce Ref9V2, so any judgement he made was regarding the non-SE version.

It's important in these discussions to keep model numbers and iterations correct, since listeners hear definite differences among them.

The nice things is that at 8 pounds, you can talk a friend into bringing the Nuforce's over! I wanted to hear the Pass XA 100.5's with my equipment after they sounded amazing at a friend's house but didn't have the heart to ask him to lug their 100+ lbs X 2 to my house.

Goodness, Tvad is correct. V1, V2, SE confuses me, but I understand the Ref 9's V2 SE are the best Nuforce amps to date. Hope I did not mess up the model again :-)

Nuforce better call the next one Ref10!