Which preamp for Symphonic Line Kraft amps?


Hi All;

I'm in the process of receiving a pair of Symphonic Line Kraft amps to power a pair of Dali Megalines (using a tube crossover). I'm currently using a Dodd battery powered preamp and am thinking about upgrading to either a Symphonic Line solid state amp (RG3 mk4) or the new CAT Renaissance (replaces the SL1 Ultimate mk 2?).

I'm guessing the best way to find out would be to use my ears if I can audition both units in my system, but these aren't items I can drive down the street to pick up...

Any thoughts would be appreciated though, especially regarding the SL preamps...
jonathan_s
Jay;

Thanks again for the observations - you're right that since the crossover is what's driving the amps that's what counts. I also have the stock solid state crossovers that come with the speakers and they have an output impedence of 50 ohms. I have to say that I much prefer the tube crossover - its input impedence is 60k, and the stock Dali crossover is 20k).
In years past I owned an RG-1, an RG-7 and the RG-4 monos. I tried a few different preamps with each of them but in the end CAT preamps always produced the best sound. The RG-1 was mated to a Sig. 1 and the RG-4s were mated to an Ultimate. Truly wonderful sound.
I now use the SL Kraft 250 and the SL tubed pre. I previously owned a CAT Ult MK2. I have also heard the SL SS pre with the Kraft. Bombaywalla and Jay are both right.
The SS SL with a 1 ohm output produces deeper tighter bass than the tubed SL or the CAT. The tubed SL does other things somewhat better than the SS SL. It is a matter of taste but I would choose either over the CAT. You may end up going back to the SS crossover to drive the amp correctly and may want the things tubes bring from the preamp.

Bart
Bart;

Thanks for your reply - I was hoping I might hear from you as I'd seen a couple of your posts on Audio Asylum about auditioning the SL SS preamp and then purchasing their tubed unit.

Once I get the Kraft amps I'll have to see what happens using both the tubed and stock crossovers and then make my decision about going solid state or tubes when I upgrade my preamp.

Regards,

Jonathan
Hi guys allot of good info. in this thread,

I have never heard Kraft product, when I look at pics on the site and the little bit of info. regarding the product I'm a bit confused with; the finish and actual product line it's self.

First off the finish, I see on the site a pic of a pretty industrial pro looking finish, then I see some pics of a darker chrome shiny look (which I like) and then a mat aluminum look as per the 300 for sale right now, what is the actual finish.

Secondly, are all the amps a class "A" design ....

Do the amps run warm, hot .....

The pre-amps offered are tube and solid state .....

Looking at my past set-ups I seem to favour a tube pre and solid state amps.

Jdineshk I read you actually use to have a REF3 which I currently own, what's the rest of your set-up.

This set-up is for CD playback only.

Connections are they XLR or RCA and the preference is .....

Right now I have all XLR, Stealth latest version Indra's and very happy.

My speakers are MBL 101E's, what would you recommend, I need mono's due to my set-up configuration and the space is fairly large. I had bought a pair of CAT JL3 Sig. MK2's but do to reliability issues etc. which I was not privy to prior declined to have to deal with this and sold them, while talking with Ken he mentioned the only other amp he would recomend if not CAT would be Kraft product.

Right now I'm learning more about Karan product and specifically the 1200's and look foward to hearing in my set-up in the near future.