I need SS muscle

Jw94055, I didn't think you were putting down my picks. I just wanted to explain why I mentioned them.

tvad
Review my post... I believe I said I previewed (auditioned) the Gen IIIs with my Krell KAV 250 amp, in a smaller room than the OPs. by a good bit.

I wasn't impressed. Partly that's why I went into the Silverlines.

Life for me too or maybe just me, got in my way and I let go of the BAT amp with intentions of using a hefty SET amp with mo' eff speakers. Alas... had I only changed the speakers... Oil well.

Sorry if somehow I misled.

Was/is your room similar to the 8064 cu ft of the orig posters when you performed this mentioned preview? At this point we aren't sure if it is still more with openings, or closed off.

That's a tremendous space to handle for attaining good impactful bass with but a couple speakers, IMO.

Blindjim, as I read a couple paragraphs further, I saw you mentioned listening
to the VR4 Jr before leaving the dealership, so I understand it was at this
dealership that you listened to the VR4 Gen III (HSE?).

My room is 19x24x8, and it opens onto a 12x12x8 room behind the listening
position. So, it's about half the volume of the OP's. The speakers were too
large for my room. That was one problem I had with them. The HSE edition
can handle 1000wpc peaks. They played loudly and cleanly up to 110dB peaks
(that's as loud as I ever measured), and satisfied the visceral whallop, and
loud volume this ex rock-n-roll and big band drummer desires at times.

Apples to oranges rooms, though. Point taken.

I'm going to step aside, as I've shared about as much as I can from my
experience with these speakers as it pertains to this thread.

Listened to both the Gen IIIs, and 4JRs at the same dealership... in differing rooms, with different gear driving each set of speakers.

No 'C' units were ever previewed. As I understand it and think you might have intimated to me the big diff from one another was the networks and/or the components comprising them... higher grade caps, etc.

I'm stunned still seeing the expanse of your own room however. I'd not have felt such results could have been atained. interesting for sure.

I'm done too. Subs are and have been for a while now, the path to improving upon a set system without making replacements en masse.

At near double Tvad's room parameters, I see no reasonable cost effective path for achieving better bass than to proceed with buying a sub (s). naturally, adding another amp of a different flavor/style, likely will help and certainly be a gain of sorts, yet I would be sufficiently fascinated to find out only another amp was enough.

In any case... have fun... and good luck.

McCormack DNA 225s can be had cheap with the launch of the DNA 250. It's a great amp, I have a DNA 125 and it's extremely musical and has great dynamics.