EL34 SED, Black Sable or Genelex Gold Lion?

Thorman: it is valueable that you write down your experience with Black Sable. It gives me some perspective on a rather expensive tube.

Musicophile;
My eperience ( my system ) with the SED Cryo'd El34 is that they do not sound the same ( or as good ) as the stock SED El34..Point being they sound warmer ( quite a bit ) and not quite as much air..If you need more warmth,thats a different story,but if you systems tone is where you want it, the Cryo'd El34 would not worth the extra fee.. Some tubes do sound better after Cryo treatment but my experiance the SED El 34 isn't one of them..Keep in mind this is to my ears and my system..

System:
Thor Audio T1000mk2 Linestage W/Mundorf Cap Upgrade.
Thor Audio TPA 30 Monoblocks

Thanks Thorman. Your descriptions is exactly what I am after. What about Genelex Gold Lion compared to SED, anyone?

Musicophile : Check with ( Search ) Jim McShane tubes ..Jim has a great reputation for his tube Knowledge and Selling and sells both tubes your are interested in... From what I can gather the Genelex G/Lion is a more Linear ( or more neutral ) tube than the Stock SED EL34 ...So its always kinda what " Tone " you are looking for..I have treid quite a few EL34 ( have not tried Genelex yet ) quads and always come back to SED.......Good Luck..Hope that helps..

It helps Thorman. Thanks for the advice and your good descriptions.