who wants tone controls on your next preamp?


I can remeber tone controls. They used to be on preamps, and integrated amplifiers. Then somehow, they vanished. I KNOW why they say they got rid of them, but really i think it was so cable manufacturers could sell billions of dollars worth of cables. Anyone else also notice tone controls disappeared same time as we all started to need 'special cables'? it's a plot!
I want tone control back on my stuff.
How about you?
Of course, they would have to be defeatable.
elizabeth
To hear recordings way as intended would be possible only if we have an ideally universal standard sound/system calibration method. As well, similar taste, preference and listening environment as some have suggested.. imo.
I saw this thread when it was just getting started and wanted to comment, but I was at work and well... First off, I want to congratulate Elizabeth for bringing up the subject. She has some great questions and I feel they are very important. When I started over again with a new system three years ago, if I couldn't have had tone controls, I would have stayed with my then current gear. No matter the arguement, not all music is recorded the same. Having tone controls that can help make a bad recoding a bit more bearable and a good recording even better is a real plus. Here's another example. When I bought my system, I heard it with all the pieces I bought (at that time). I listened for two or three hours and the system sounded really great (and best) with the tone controls set at zero. But when I brought it home, it did not sound the same. Needed some help from the treble control. I'm sure its my room (the vaulted ceiling). But the point is without tone control, I would be very unhappy. Personally, if they make no difference when turned off, then why not; they should be included. They will provide a great benefit when you need it. And I doubt that the cost to add them is very significant. Finally, hearing a recording the way an engineer wanted you to. I'm not sure they deliberately engineer a recording that is bass heavy or bright. I bet that's not the intent or the intended product. It just comes out that way. (Just look at your music collection and you'll probably note that not all of your music sounds great (I bet). If I bought music that only was recoreded well, my collection would be pretty small. With tone controls, I can help those pieces that need it and turn the controls off on those that don't. -Thanks Elizabeth for addressing a great need in this high-end audio market. Very interesting thread for sure. BTW, it would be great if tone controls could also be controlled by a remote.
My Adcom GFP 715 preamp has defeatable tone controls that work swimmingly...I use 'em on a second amp driving speakers I use for occaisional outdoor (from windows) use, and drive my main speakers with the "bypass" output. All sound great.
I also have defeatable tone controls and there is little degradation in the sound with them "in" vs. "out". But a big improvement in overall balance with them "in".
Am now going one step further with digital parametric equalizer now.
Should add that when I was an audiophile I wouldn't have dared to use tone controls but since I stopped putting music on such a high pedestal, I am not afraid of altering the sound anymore. What do all those recording engineers know anyhow?