Assistance with Coincident set-up

Montejay , forgot to mention, thank you for the post on the Dragon II amps.
I don't think I can come up with the money for the Dragons but if I do come into some money I will get them.
Who knows I may win the lottery.

Regards,
Abill

Hi Abill,

If you ever come close to buying a new Dragons Mk2, you may want to consider having an audition first. I'm sure you're familiar with the Franks, if you could hear (Franks) with Statement Linestage before you decide. Better still, if the combo can be paired with the shotgun cables, it would be ideal. If you're ever in Canada or if Israel would participate on future audio shows, you may want to visit him to discuss further or have a listen.

It's a big investment but let your ears be the judge, before you decide.

Personally, I would put my money first on a better preamp like Statement Linestage and Shotgun cables. Unless you're sure Dragons will meet more of your needs which requires high power amplification and a gutsier sound. You'll be surprise how better source, like Esoteric would add to the level of low level details, bass slam and impact.

When i owned the Franks Mk2 with a TVC passive preamp, there were two incidents that surprised or shook me....from Franks...a pair of 8 watts monoblock:

1. When playing a Jazz station from a Sansui TU-9900 FM tuner, the music stopped abruptly, and it felt like air was suddenly sucked out of the room! Shocking experience! i was actually doze off at my couch, and i jumped out from my slumber to find out what happen! Hilarious!!

2. When i played movies from an old DVD, i think it was "tomb raider" when angeline joie was swimming in the sea, there were very minor details i've never heard before.

Plus many other incidents from music recordings and movies i've heard, i wa able to hear more and made lots of new discoveries...the level of low level details extraction and excellent low noise floor still impresses me till this day. But many of my preferences requires higher power amplification...so i chose to plunge into getting the latest Dragons. The Franks by itself is very dynamic, i'm not sure if Dragons was necessarily more dynamic compared to Franks. But Dragons excel in low bass notes control and explosive sound.

Israel has all the above attributes in his system, probably more. I'm sure it'll change your experience. :) I'm glad placement of speakers improve your experience...currently this is an area i don't have much luxury on, plus i don't have dedicated ground lines. This, i believe, will enhance my system further.

Jimmy

Below comments were taken from Coincident's website, a customer review of CPRE but note the comments or comparison he made on Dragons (version prior to the latest release) and Franks. The new Franks close up the gap alot, but bi-amping solves his thirst for more power and keeping the refinement. Just saw Coincident's website that they participated in recent RMAF 2011, they had show case the latest dragons. :)

RMAF 2011 report (note the comments by reviewer of Franks and latest dragons):
If the M300B's 8 watts are not enough power (and they were more than enough for the P. R. Extreme), CST also makes the Dragon 211PP MK II (push/pull) monos based on the 211 output tube. If other 211 push/pull amps are any indication, the Dragon should provide 70 very powerful watts.

Customer comments:
"I purchased the Coincident Dragon amps 2 years ago and was very pleased with their performance using them with TV2, PR and lastly Extremes. A powerful dynamic amp if ever there was one. I love them. I then auditioned the Frankenstein 2. It was an easy decision to purchase a pair. I did so thinking I would sell the Dragons and upgrade my tone arm. After some break in time with the Frankenstiens I began to hear detail yet unheard with the Dragons. I was ecstatic! At the same time I had been listening to the Dragons for 2 years. Like two old friends it was hard to say good by, so I hooked them up for possibly one last time. However I decided to leave the Frankensteins hooked up to the driver unit and the bass modules to the Dragons. I was blown away. I heard beautiful airy delightful highs and bass with GESTALT like never before. I was snake bitten. These 4 parts played as a whole like a professional four part harmony group plays as one. It was and is an unbelievable experience that I continue to delight in day after day. I could live with the PR and either of the Coincident amps and be very happy. I could live with the Extremes and either Coincident amps and be delighted. However the PR Extremes fired by both amplifiers are like a match made in heaven. They have to be heard together to be believed. I have been on what seems a quest, adding in and swapping out components for about 7 years. I can't imagine changing my present set up for many years to come if at all. "

Jimmy