Ayon Audio Forum- all questions and suggestion

@Calvinj

I have to be careful as I am talking to a lawyer now.

The Esoteric player I audited was K-03. It was paired with Wavestream V-8 Monoblocks and Voce V-1 speakers. The sound was wonderful and truthful. There isn't any flaw in that combination. The element I prefer Ayon CD-5s is the longer sound decay length or so called "airy". Ayon CD-5s sustains the sound longer. For me that’s much closer to rear-row-seated live concert experiences.

When Furtwangler was asked what element is the most critical factor of music recreation, his answer was "Sound", not tempo controlling nor phrase shaping. To me, it is the very truth of music listening as well. I ask myself to attend live performance at least once every month and listen to live piano playing every single day for at least one hour so my reference points are live music. ? That’s also the reason I use orchestras as expressions to describe my personal preference instead of words. It gives people more understanding what my desired sound should be.

Now the question is what kind of sound you favor?

Happy Listening!

Otto

My bad. My message is for Audiolabyrinth.

@ Yul11375, Hi, Thats Cool!, I like the way you do things, I was a proffessional musician my self, toured all thru the states as a singer in a rock band!, I know very well what real music should sound like, I have not auditioned eany esoteric K seris players yet, I have not rulled out going to a Ayon 5s yet!, I have been thru so many problems with tube players I could scream!, The Ayon 2s sounded great when it was burning in, then it did something I have never heard or seen before, It became forward sounding!, thats not music!, the sound stage is to small!, and not deep like I demand of an audio system,, As you know, all this is system dependent!, I am bewildered as to why Ayon cut so many corners with sound differences between the 2s and 5s?, for what you pay for the 2s, It should by all means perform better than it does!, I love alot of decay like you do, I have not auditioned the 5s yet, the 2s has left a bad tast in my mouth so to speak of!, In general, I do not know if you are aware of the fact that 6h30 tubes by nature are forward sounding tubes, the only reason the 5s sounds adequete is the fact that Ayon put tubes in the power suppy, a cheap way of bettering the sound stage, more less coloring the sound, An example of what I am saying is, Put eany player on a non dedicated electrical line that shares the same circuit that the player is on, you can turn on the light and hear a big difference with the sound stage pending the music being played, Its bigger!, tubes are merly light bulbs in a since, as you can see Ayon used an entirely different type of tubes in the power suppy of the 5s for a reason!,, cheers!

@ Yul11375, Hi, You have had me thinking for hours that I would like to ask your opinions, I would appreciate you thoughts and your help,,Can you elaborate more on the sound differences of the Esoteric k-03 and the Ayon 5s?,, what player has the deeper more impactfull bass?,what player has a full bodied richer sound?,what player has the deeper sound stage?, what player has a bigger sound stage?,what player has better focus and resolving power?,What player sounds more steril and analitical?,what player has the better mid-range, snare drums, vocals, guitars,that are full bloom and realistic sounding, not thin!, full and rich,with full body sound scapes?,, Likly neither player does this!, I still would like to know, I am going to search long and hard for a player to do all these attributes!, they exsist!, I had one!, and it was only $2,800.00, I got a refund on it cause we believed it was shutting my amp into stand by mode at the time, It was not the digital player!, Its gone now, It was a vincent player that bested the ayon 2s in every way imaginable!, go figure!, I want something even better than the mighty vincent player, the vincent was the most musical player i have ever heard, and thats going against players in the $20,000.00 class, so really, cost, when it comes to digital has nothing to do with it!,, cheers.

Hi Audiolabyrinth,

In order to provide my own personal expression more correctly and to avoid prejudicious judgements, I am adjusting my system by experimenting different cables and damping tweaks now. I have about 20 CDs which are considered my testing tunes. To go through all of them I need this whole weekend for a fair conclusion. Please be patience with me.

In terms of tube based CD players, I can sense your sufferings as I had 2 tube based CD players in 15 years. I am lucky enough for not having premature tubes issues.

In brief, if soundstage is your major concern then Ayon CD5s can't show its forte in that category.

Details will be provided later.