high power tube amps vs ss


I have always had low efficiancy speakers and had powerfull ss amps to power them. Now I see there are a number of tube amps in the 150 - 200 WPC range. My questions is: is there anything to be gained by switching to these higher power tube amps over ss amps?
winggo
It was an experiment. Thankfully(I guess). I love consensus though. I also love being a pain in the ass. I have nothing else:) Tubes or ss, it's all the same to me. It only has to sound good. Less maintenance with ss.
I'd first get your speaker selection worked out, then worry about amplification. Speaker-amp matching is so key. And speakers are the most important component in the chain. Settle on them, then start figuring out a good amp to match them.
HEY. you 6550 guys, you need SYLVANIA 6550's not those shrill GE's.
I use Winged C's myself as the last quad I saw of unused Sylvania's was going for $600 and that was a few years back.
If I could make transistors do what I can do with ease with tubes I would make transistor amps.

But I can't and no-one else seems to be able to do so either, although a very few (less than 5) come close.

That thing that tubes do is they don't make odd ordered harmonic distortion the way that transistors do. Most solid state devices have a non-linear capacitive aspect that is inherent in the junctions of the device. This capacitance is multiplied by the amount of current through the device. This is one reason transistors make more odd ordered harmonic distortion than tubes.

The discussion about guitar amps does have relevance here. Guitar players prefer the smoother (lower odd ordered harmonic distortion) sound of tubes, especially when overdriving (clipping) the amplifier.

Because tubes (triodes in particular) are the most linear form of amplification known, it is possible and practical to built a tube amp with no negative feedback that has fairly low distortion. This is really hard to do with transistors, and it is notable that the best transistor amps made (in my book) are all zero-feedback designs. However, 99% or so of transistor amps use feedback, and feedback actually *increases* the odd-ordered harmonic distortion in any circuit.

Since the ear uses odd ordered harmonics to figure out how loud a sound is, by adding trace amounts to the signal the result will be brighter and harsher.

The bottom line is if you want it to sound real instead of just a really good hifi, you have to find a way to get rid of that negative feedback. Usually that means going to tubes, and then finding a speaker that works. BTW:

High efficiency speakers would make life a lot easier, but I thought those type of speakers sounded shrill and thin. It may be because I have only heard them with ss amps.

The last sentence here is the important bit.

My speakers are 98 db 1 watt/1 meter, and go to 20Hz. I can shake the building with a 60 watt amp, without concern of clipping the amp. Most 'high power' systems I hear cannot play with the volume, the impact or the clarity I hear at home. Even at +100 db sound pressures, it still sounds smooth and relaxed. IME most audiophiles won't listen at levels over 90db because their system is too harsh. Real music plays at +100 db levels, if you can't do that at home without discomfort, something is wrong with the system.
GE / SYLVANIA? Last I checked they were pretty similar, if not identical. Unreliability of this tube vintage keeps me looking to new stuff. I do like my 12 AX7 Amperex Bugle Boys and Sylvania and Tung Sol 6 SN 7 tubes, but they are more plentiful. Jallen