new refrence 3a mm de capo

What's the price on the new De Capo BE?

Rebbi, I owned the earlier De Capo i's and they were wonderful in the ways you describe. However, I found them a bit too forward sounding. (I expect their measurements would be less than optimum.) Do you find that with yours?

Slick2,

contact Galen Carol, San Antonio Texas, he has been a Reference 3a dealer/retailer for many years and can give you expert info regarding these speakers.

Interesting how you perceive them Drubin. This doesn't surprise me at all. I would think many would have this perception of these speakers which in many ways parallel the Merlin line, a more forward presentation as opposed to a mid-hall laid back speaker. I would doubt very much that this impression would change with the new model. Interestingly for me the first time I listened I thought they were a bit more laid back and polite than the VSM, at least at the dealers. When I got them home in my system I discovered that they were not at ALL polite, quite dynamic actually with huge lifelike images on well recorded material. On the other hand they really change with the recording and mic placement resolving the acoustic space in a most convincing way and that can change to a more mid hall impression if it's on the recording. In this way I find them even more resolving of space than the VSM which are VERY good in this area of performance.

I do have a question for you Drubin when you mention forward are you referring to the 700-1K boost noted in several measurements of the speaker and noted by some listeners or do you find them generally forward regardless of that bump?

Tubegroover, it has been several years since I had the Ref 3A's and my recall of the specifics is not ideal. What I remember is that the music always seemed to be happening out in front of the speakers, whereas I tend to prefer a presentation that is at or behind the plane of the speakers. A bump at 700 - 1K sounds like it could be the culprit, which means the problem is with the mid-woofer and not the tweeter and probably not the xover. The new BE version has a new tweeter but they have made some changes in other areas also, so I'm curious to know if they have tamed the bump.

My current small speaker assortment includes the Harbeth P3ESR, KEF LS50 and Revel M106. (I like variety.)

Drubin,
I cannot be entirely helpful here because I've never heard the De Capo i. Mine came as the De Capo i/A with the white, "acoustic lens" rather than the older, fat phase plug at the center of the main driver. I then upgraded to the BE tweeter when it became available. Plus, even before the i/A, the "i" itself had gone through some changes, I think.
What I can tell you is that my De Capo's have never sounded overly or obnoxiously bright to me. They DO require a good deal of break in time to really show what they can do. The drivers apparently have to loosen up and that big capacitor has to break in and "form."
Art Dudley, who reviewed the De Capo i for Stereophile back in 2003 (and found them "unforgettable") said he heard a "hooty coloration" with some recordings. I think I may know what he was referring to but any trace of that has vanished with playing time. John Atkinson really didn't like how they measured, but I wonder whether the newer iteration would please him more.