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After market Motor + Belt drive for Verdier

I have been looking to upgrade my TT motor and belt drive for some time now. I use a Nouvelle Verdier and its only sore point is its motor and silk thread drive. It is not bad, it gets the job done. The sound is neat and in general non-offensive. However, when I used a 0.25 inch magnetic tape (reel to reel) to drive the platter the overall sound became more dynamic, voices sounded younger, instruments sounded happier. It was as if the pitch of all the instruments became more realistic. But then I also heard more of the irregularities of the motor rotation, the timing of instruments messed up a little. The background was no more as clean as the thread drive.

This told me two things:
1. Silk thread is good but it affects music in a way that makes the performance a bit sleepy.

2. The stock motor is not good enough to accommodate a tighter coupling with the platter.

So, I am now looking for after market motor and belt drive solution. I looked at Teres motor but for that to work they require a sensor to be placed under the platter but my TT doesnt have enough gap between the platter and plinth to place the sensor. I am looking for some viable suggestions here.

A friend of mine suggested me to consider a flywheel between the motor and the platter which will absorb the motor irregularities. I dont know if it is worth a try because I see many good TTs do not have a flywheel, that means a good motor is all I need I guess but I am open to the flywheel idea also.
pani
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ct0517
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Hi Mosin – something a little different maybe - outside the box. is this even possible ?

I'd like an ultra high end controller only. You're not allowed to touch the manufacturer's motors. A controller that has the balls to handle the Jean Nantais Lenco; then when I clap my hands it switches its functions to handle the Verdier requirements which are at the other end of the scale; Clap a third time and it becomes a line conditioner for the DD SP10.

I can only play one turntable at a time, and they are in different rooms so it needs to be portable too.

Remember this is a wish list item. Is this too much to ask for ? Even possible electronically? I can make the clapping part optional if it helps. Will settle for a three way switch.

I agree with Palasr' post.

Palasr
Embodiment of madness

imo - this can describe this hobby very well at times.
mosin
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Ct0517,
Unfortunately, the requirements for various motors is so vastly different that a one-size-fits-all solution is beyond the realm of possibility. Any controller with that claim would be a hoax. In the best case, it wouldn't be a very elegant solution.
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ct0517
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Mosin.
Have always tried to teach my kids to think big.
Tried to follow some of my own advice.
thanks for popping my bubble on the idea...
Cheers
maril555
618 posts
 
Live and learn...
I understand, that Walker controller would do little, if anything for Verdier motor, which is essentially a DC motor, and Walker is intended for AC variety.
Now, is there a controller, that would improve on Verdier built-in controller, and better yet, can be run by a battery?
Mosin,
it seems, that challenges of building an "universal" motor controller will be enormous, but how about making it more specific? To build one, that's intended for DC motors only? (little selfish, isn't it?)
maril555
618 posts
 
Mosin,
reading your original question again, I do think, that there is a market for a stand alone controller/motor/belt combination. And why wouldn't it be?
One could use this package with ANY belt driven TT, right? Did I get your question correctly?
And a controller in this case shouldn't need to be overly complicated, since it will be designed to be used with a specific motor, that will be a part of the package.
it's not going to be compatible with ALL belt drive TTs, due to the diiferences in platter mass, the height of the chassis and platter, etc., but still...
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