Time To Impose Minimum Standards for LP's


Many Audiogon Members have invested substantial sums in acquiring high-end Turntables, Tonearms, and Cartridges. It seems appropriate that sellers of vinyl records should consider that fact before they list records for sale. Damaged records are not playable, IMO, on any Audiophile Turntable. Personally, I will not play a record that is a "7 out of 10" on the Audiogon scale. Nor will I resell such a record. It is destined for the round file in the corner. Yet today on Audiogon there are records offered which are rated at "3 out of 10" and which are described as damaged but "too good to throw away". Please save the junk for some other venue, or yardsale. Perhaps it's time for Audiogon to impose minimum standards for Sellers of music. Because the listing is free is not a legitimate reason to offer junk on this site.
commcat
Please help me here. The Audiogon rating scale appears to have nothing to do with LPs at all, how can you make the statement that you would not play a record rated 7 out of 10 on this scale:

http://www.audiogon.com/scale.html
I agree in some respects with both Commcat and Casey33.

The problem with record grading is lack of consistency. Some people use only visual grading, which is woefully inadequate for audiophiles. Other people grade based on how the LP sounds.

It's awfully tough to legislate subjective grading.

When buying used LPs, it comes down to caveat emptor. Hopefully, along the way we find record sellers who use grading scales that correspond to our individual criteria for condition.
LP grading has ALWAYS been a problem, always. When it was a face to face retail transaction, the usual system was if a record 'looked good' to both seller and buyer, if it turned out to be bad, the seller would (hopefully, at least for regular customers), take back the LP. When internet sales came along, the problem became more complicated, with newbies mistakenly misgrading LPs, and scam artists ripping people off intentionally. On eBay, My experience made me just quit using eBay as a way to buy LPs. (As for the goN', I find most LPs very overpriced, or overgraded.)
The grading problem is only solved by buying ONLY from those sellers who have a proven track record, and that means paying more.
I cannot see how an honest rating of "bad, but worth collecting" for a rare record is a fraud? I have sold an LP listed as $500. mint (mine was not so good, I sold it to a local dealer for $25., he had never found a copy of it before..) So was I bad?
The buying of 'pig in a poke' LPs is part of the process.
When I hear folks wanting to 'get into LPs' I ask them: Do you have a LOCAL SOURCE for LPs? If not, it is pretty tough to get back into buying LPs. (unless one is wealthy).
I (lucky me) have over a dozen LOCAL LP sources..
I already re-collected 14,000 a few years ago, then 'threw back' (to local second hand stores) more than half when I had to move. Now I have about 6,000 plus LPs. And I buy only locally, and only perfect looking LPs. A mark on the surface means no sale.
I no longer waste time searching second hand junk stores for that one in a thousand find.
I did, when I wanted to, but that source is drying up fast.
If you really want to find LPs. Go to the estate sales in your area.. the FIRST day. Sooner or later you will hit the jackpot.
Why does anyone care?
If you dont want it then dont buy it, its a free market and if its described as far from perfect (3 certainly is) then who is a victim????
Your trying to impose your values on everyone else and a free market supply and demand model is much more well thought out than your idea.
Buy from dealers that will cheerfully take back any record you disagree with the grading of. It's still a hassle to return (or take returns) but for most of us, vinyl buying and selling is a hobby. Let's keep it fun. And don't sell junk!