Beatles Without George Martin?


The point of this thread is simple:

The older I get and the more I learn about the Beatles, the more I revere George Martin. I've become convinced that Martin wove the common thread of musicality through those very different individuals. In fact, his talent in some ways clearly exceeded theirs.

A man of musical genius no doubt.

Opinions? Trivial tidbits? Let's hear 'em!
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Just listen to the beatles 'Love'...... then decide if George Martin had a hand in the Beatles success or if he is worthy of the 'fifth beatle' status.
I unashamedly LOVE the album. And yes, I think George Martin is a genius.
Martin as well as Geoff Emerick played significant roles in assisting the Beatles with their music. It is the Beatles who made George Martin and not the other way around!
I'd say he actually contributed to the creative process of many songs. Suggestions in recording studios have synergy or not. Paul called him after they produced recordings elsewhere. Paul wanted the Beatles to record together like they use to do. Like Sun Studios in Nashiville, somebody contributed something very special during the recording process. Great stuff came out of there. Jimmy Page was a great studio musician and brought many recording skills to Zepplin's sound.

Martin provided a balance and themes to albums in terms of some song selections, too. The alternate takes on songs while making an album had many of his suggestions for musical coherency. His earliest mono recordings are historical, and the latest DVD-A Love is beyond any remix I've heard lately.