How U determine first and second reflection points


Someone told me following a while ago in room teak thread, but I don't think I understand it well. Any comments?
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Have someone sit in the primary listening location, take a mirror to the side walls opposite each speaker and move it until the seated person can see the speaker reflected in the mirror. These are your first reflection points. Start from there.
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eandylee
Sit in your listening chair. Have a friend take a flat mirror (e.g., the kind you use for shaving with or in the bathroom - hopefully at least 8-9" x 8-9") and place it flat on the right side wall just behind or beside your right speaker and at about the height of the tweeter in your speakers. While you are sitting in your listening position, have the friend stand behind the mirror and start moving the mirror towards you until you see the tweeter of the right speaker in the middle of the mirror. THAT is the FIRST reflection point. Then have that person keep going until you see the tweeter of the speaker nearest the left wall in the middle of the mirror (still on the right wall) and THAT is your SECOND reflection point. Do the same on the opposite wall and you have your first and second reflection points.

Does this help?
Between my post, Snofun3's post and Fmpnd's post, you have the same method nicely described by three different people. Pick one and have fun.
I found it easier to use a small mirror if I put a lamp (no shade) at the center of the speaker, then, as above, move the mirror until you "see the light".

Other choice is to sketch your room (to scale) and find the reflection point on the drawing (where the "angle in" equals the "angle out"--in other words, the angle the line from the center of the speaker to the wall makes is equal to the line from that same point to the listening position). Lamp is much easier...

I have not worried about 2nd reflections
So, each of the left and right walls will have 2 relection poinsts - one from right speaker and one from left speaker?
Or, each wall will have first reflection point from the speaker on the same side and the reflection of the speaker on the other side is considered second refection point?

seems like slight difference in definiton of first and second reflection point by Tvad and Fmpnd.