Yup, they're officially dropped. I guess they're collectibles now. ;-)
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Hey, Yes I did get this fixed. May be a bit beyond me to explain as I a not technical but I added some homemade bass traps and I suppose it changed the pressure in the room because it made the clipping go away. I LOVE these speakers. Just read they are dropping them from the line- too bad. Glad I have these. Thanks for asking Best Tony |
Tony,I keep my bass amp setting at high noon but of course the bass volume setting is room and system dependent...clipping means distorting from overload....if the amp is shutting down during real complex passages and loudly played that sounds like clipping and the protection circuit kicks in to protect the gear.Check out my system photo...speakers 10 feet apart, and 4 feet from front wall (distance to rear of speaker). Larry |
Larry, just sent you a email. I've had two pairs of dB's,, the first pair when the model went into full production some time ago and a pair I recvd a month or so ago. No hum, buzz or any other sonic abberation. Turn the amplifiers pwr'ing the bass modules off and see if you still get noise. If you have another amplifier that you can A/B that too would be great. Power conditioner, grounds, ,,,? When in doubt contact Kevin at VSA. Your 99's should be dead quiet. Jack Jack |
I have Zu Definitions - similar high-efficiency design with powered "sub", internal. I get a little hum from mine too, though it's not audible from the listening seat as the woofers fire in the rear. Sean at Zu told me they could kill the hum, but it reduced the life at the nether regions. Sounds like a design choice to me. |
I've had mine sans super tweeter since late June...best speakers I've ever owned....everything I've always wanted...love the bottom end. Only criticism is I can hear low level buzz-hum from one of the built in amps from my listening position 12 feet away...it's not the circuitry or my gear, they're dead quiet...anyone experience this or have a solution? I haven't called my dealer yet to see if this is the norm. thanks, Larry |
Tony, I don't know if you are a jazz fan but pick up the McCoy Tyner "New York Reunion" SACD from Chesky Records. It features Tyner on Piano, Joe Henderson on Tenor Sax, Ron Carter on Bass and Al Foster on Drums. On cut #5 "Ask Me How" it opens wih Joe Henderson doing solo sax work that is just so palpable and vocal its spooky. Towards the end of the song Al Foster adds some subtle kick drum beats that at first,,,, I thought was my Wife coming up the back steps towards the music room. When I realized that it wasn't her,,, I thought it was my heart bounding out of my chest! It just blows me away, how 3-D and expansive the soundstage and imaging is and how closely accurate and natural the presentation comes to "live". |
Hey Jack- yea you are gushing :) understandably so. For the most part all speaker owners say good things about their speakers so I will throw this in as I think it's a great testimony to the 99's. My wife could give a crap about speakers. To her they have been my silly hobby which she's tolerated because "at least it's not golf." After I set up the 99's and got them placed correctly with room treatments etc. I took her down(sound room in the basement) to listen to them. I put on her faviorite band U2 and thought if anybody can charm her into liking these puppies Bono can. So there she sat and as the right speaker rang out the first guitar she turned and said- "That sounds cool- the guitar is coming from over there". Then the second guitar chimed in on the left side and she said "Oh that's neat they are seperated and real....." Just then Bono started to sing and she stopped in mid sentence. She sat there for about thirty seconds and then turned to me and ask, "How are they doing that?" Without waiting for an answer she turned back and just listend. She then got up and went to the middle of the speakers and the front wall to see if I had put a center speaker there and ask again "How can they be doing this?" After the song ended she sat there and said "WOW." Now THAT's praise. These speakers are soo good that they not only have my wife off my back- she's next to me on the couch. Thanks VSA!!! |
all current dB99's come with grill covers. The optional supertweeter module comes without. BTW, the cabinets are built by "local" So Calif VSA partnered cabinet makers and the woodworking is superb and "one of kind". The wood finish palate ranges from standard to the very exotic. The "wait" time has been reduced though selection of non-standard finishes adds to the price. All "custom" line speaker cabinets,, are made near the VSA facility. Jack |
The supertweeter at 19kHz adds to the upper harmonics of speaker,, the difference of the 99's sounding a bit more open and "airy" than without. As a VSA dealer, having lived with a pair of 99's without the supertweeter for a time, I prefer the addition of the new ribbon speaker module. And as you know Tony, the 99's can be self-tweeked to add or subtract bass by simply dialing in the low-end using a volume knob located at the rear of the speaker. The 10" magnesium woofs are each pwrd by 300watt amps. It is surprising to me how a recording can sound so different and so much better in terms of overall dynamics with some easy and quick fine tuning. What audiophiles turnover and spend in electronics, accessories and other tweeks to shape the character of the sound around room abberations and marginal recordings may thus be avoided. But, not to be mistaken,, the 99's could be and should be matched with the best equipment you can afford to get the most from them. If it sounds like I'm gushing,,, I'm just all over this VSA model! I had three auditions over the w/e,, one gent was/is a musician. To watch their facial expressions while spinning a few discs was to give me as much pleasure as they experienced during the listening session. You are right Tony, the dB's ARE amazing! Thats the word they used too! Best, Jack Houston |
Hi Jack. Thanks for the picture. I've converted your pdf file to a jpg file. The best I can do is post a link. DB-99 SE with Super Tweeter Module |
Ksroy, I just sent you the picture of my db's that I hope you'll have better luck posting than I. The pics don't do them justice in reality but they'll give you a glimpse of the finish and supertweeter module. They are a sonic and cosmetic knockout! I'm using a Bel Canto SET 40 with KR Audio 845's and a modified APL/Esoteric DV50 (w/AKM dacs). Also, I had Analysis-Plus re-fit plugs on a pair of Pwr Ovals to fit the 99's and am not using stock cords. Also,, Paul Garner's Verbatum speaker cables are used to wonderful effect. Jack |
I just mailed in my down payment to Quest for Sound on the db99's...4 to 6 week wait will seem long...you can use any power amp on these things with good results....the owner also said he tried a midfi Rotel amp, just for fun, and the speakers sounded fine....I'll be using my ss BAT VK500 but now I'll have the ability to go low power tubes if the yen hits. |
Heh Dave, Actually I live near Boston and was in Philly for a business trip...there are no Von Schweikert dealers in Mass or RI...I heard the 99's through the Consonance droplet CD player, quite a piece of audio art...Quest for Sound owner Steve Monte is quite a guy and I do wish I lived near that shop...only trouble is trying to decide on piano black or the burgundy color...I have all BAT tubed electronics but for the ss amp and I couldn't believe the way those speakers emulated live music...which I never thought possible to do...the build time is 4 to 6 weeks and they will ship right to my door...Steve said not every VS dealer has the 99's since they are "franchised." I had listened to Dali MS4's,Thiel 7s and some Avalons but liked the 99's best and the jr's second! The jr's are mindblowing considering their dimunitve size and what they can do..VSA must have some kind of engineering group out there. |
Hi Larry, Quest for Sound was the dealer at THE Show that had them hooked up to the same Consonance gear when I heard them... The match is a perfect one, as far as I am concerned. I think you are going to be *very* happy with your decision... You are lucky to live near Quest for Sound... Few people will ever be able to hear that particular combo (VS DB-99s paired with Consonance)... Just great stuff. Enjoy! ---Dave |
I had a 3 hour audition Friday March 4th and intend to buy a pair...listened at Quest for Sound near Philly....best speakers I've ever heard....they played very loud with good bass on 11 watt Consonance monoblocks and ditto with the Marsh SS 200 watt amp....soundfield and dynamics were incredibly lifelike...I've never experienced this with a loudspeaker before and I've heard some big bucks jobs...the design is good looking and not room over powering...compared to the VR4 jr's they were definitely a huge step up and worth the extra money. |
I own one of the few pair of VS DB-100's, which VS no longer produces. According to Kevin at VS, it certainly wasn't due to the sonics, but due to the aesthetics. Mine are 200 pounds each, a little under 5' tall, 22" deep and 14" wide. They also contain the bass amps and controls. They are covered by a simple black fabric with black end caps. They look fine to me. I'd rather invest in sonics then aesthetics anyway. The DB-100's preceded the new incarnation of the DB-99's. They both retail for the same amount. I wonder why the DB-100's are significantly heavier and larger? Anyway, I think mine are great and I'm sure the new DB-99's are, as well. Mine are matched with Art Audio Jota Monoblocks which are 20 watt SET's. A fantastic match with more power than I need. Imaging is fantastic. I recomend using a Systrum stand with your equipment as well as putting a Systrum SP-1 under each speaker. Much improved clarity, etc. |
This may be a good point overall. I wonder if the DB-99's were put in the room where the VR 4 SR's were and the same CD player used if they would have sounded as uninspiring as the VR 4 JR's did? Which is to say that the DB-99's could be viewed as more versitile as they have bass management and perhapse easier regarding image placement. Just a thought. |
I heard that too... But in my case, it was on the last full day of THE Show (it was also the day CES wrapped up). VS did have some problems with the CD player when I was in the room though (sorry, I did not catch the brand)... From what I heard, most people felt that by the time I listened to them, they were indeed setup the way VS wanted... ---Dave |
Hi Tickfight, I heard the VR SR at the THE Show in Vegas (same show I heard the DB99s at, but in different rooms and on different electronics)... My take was I came off very unimpressed (and I loved the DB-99s, and many other VS speakers I heard while there). I can't really put my finger on any one area where I felt the VR SRs were seriously lacking, but unlike in the room with the DB-99s where I just wanted to listen to them forever... In the VR SR room, I felt completely uninvolved with the sound, and wanted to move on to the next room rather quickly. Just very flat lifeless sound in my opinion... To be fair, it could have been the room or the electronics... but those are just some initial impressions from someone who has heard both speakers on the same day... Based on what I heard that day, the DB99s are the *far* superior speakers... ---Dave |