Jazz for aficionados

Rok, explain to me the Barry White, Hugh Masekela connection.

Where's Learsfool, calling Learsfool (he's in the phonebooth putting on his cape) calling Learsfool. He'll be to the rescue shortly.

Pryso, you win the grand prize for solving the mystery, now which album do you prefer?

I declare the remainder of this evening to be guitar night; here's one of everybody's favorites; Kenny Burrell, he's got such a warm sound, I could listen to him all night.


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQGhX8uAKjc

Pryso, I don't know what you mean, I've already ordered Art Blakey and Lee Morgan, it's on the way?

Rok, you and Frogman serve as good examples of a society gone to shit; how can anybody find humor in "Apartied" or the "Katrina Aftermath"; it takes too sick puppies, that's all I can say.


Enjoy the slime.

Rok, I'm going to write my swan song for you. This can be corroborated on page 129 05-19-2016 12:11 AM

Sunday, August 28.
APPROXIMATELY 30,000 EVACUEES GATHER AT SUPERDOME WITH ROUGHLY 36 HOURS WORTH OF FOOD [Times-Picayune]


Monday, August 29
— KATRINA MAKES LANDFALL AS A CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE [CNN]

7:30 AM CDT — BUSH ADMINISTRATION NOTIFIED OF THE LEVEE BREACH: The administration finds out that a levee in New Orleans was breached. On this day, 28 “government agencies, from local Louisiana parishes to the White House, [reported that] that New Orleans levees” were breached. [AP]

11:13 AM CDT – WHITE HOUSE CIRCULATES INTERNAL MEMO ABOUT LEVEE BREACH: “Flooding is significant throughout the region and a levee in New Orleans has reportedly been breached sending 6-8 feet of water throughout the 9th ward area of the city.” [AP]

The White House was notified that 6 to 8 feet of water was surging throughout the 9th ward in New Orleans. The Governor of Louisiana requested help from the White House and Bush went to bed without responding.


"I never knew the political chain of RESPONSIBILITY ran directly from the 9th ward to the white House."


That was Rok's response; people are drowning in the 9th ward from a natural disaster, and Rok doesn't think the president has any responsibility, even after the Governor of the state has requested help.

Could it be because the people in the ninth ward are BLACK? That the president doesn't have any responsibility for them? Living in New Orleans they ought to know how to swim, because it's below sea level is the inference of one of Rok's statements.

Eight months before "Katrina", this is what was sent half way around the world.

           
        http://www.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/223/Article/135288/amc-aircraft-people-support-tsunami-r....



Am I suppose to close my eyes to the clear indication of what this series of actions says?



          https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007392


This is a little quotation about when they came for the Jews I did not speak, and when they came for me, there was no one left to speak. When the worst happens where you live, there may be no one left to complain about not getting the necessary help you are entitled to as a citizen of The United States Of America.

Most people are smug in the consolation that their white skins will save them from anything like the people in the ninth ward suffered, but what's saving so many with white skins from poverty?



Enjoy the music.

Frogman, with all due respect, I could not care less if there are no more regular posters on this thread or not. Whether I could care less or not, it won't make any difference. When you and Learsfool did nothing but harass me, day after day, that made no difference, but now my comments make a difference.

If you just ignored my comments, they would make much less of a difference; it is you who are drawing attention to my comments. Comments are not meant for everyone who posts, but only those who are interested in such comments.

While it would be nice if we had all these posters, it ain't going to happen, not because of my comments, but because it hasn't happened in 3 years; Frogman, you are using my comments as a scapegoat for your dream of all these posters, when your best bet is to ignore my comments or respond to them, but you do neither. Now, I have to respond to your comment about my comment, when if you had made a comment in regard to music, I would respond to that, and we would be on your musical discussion, but now we are a long way from your musical discussion.

Ignoring a comment that's only apparently meant for one person is nothing new at all; for example, you and Learsfool could go on for days on a "classical" discussion, when this is a "jazz" thread, and I never objected. That comment would have drawn a short response, plus another comment on music would have been included; but look what we got now?

You got my intentions all wrong; they are neither Republican, or Democrat, but what's wrong when they get together behind closed doors. Every body knows what "Law and Order is", but it doesn't apply to the oligarchs who steal billions. Recently, I got a prescription filled that cost over $200. which would have cost $13. not long ago.


      http://www.aarp.org/health/drugs-supplements/info-2015/prices-spike-for-generic-drugs.html


Things have gotten completely out of hand, and it's neither Democrat or Republican, it's about corruption and greed; now the rich are robbing the poor, and their doing it perfectly legal like, the way the rich always do everything. Vets were being robbed by high drug prices prescribed by the VA; but as long as the rich are robbing the poor, and doing it legally, because it has been approved by the politicians, it's OK.

People like me are called "Whistle Blowers". We didn't get protection from Barak Obama, and I don't think we'll get it from Donald Trump; we pay a high price for what we believe, but that's the cost of Democracy.

Thank you Frogman for making this post a necessity.

Frogman, that Mars/Venus was totally unnecessary; if you stick to the music, you will accomplish your objective.

Frogman, that is one beautiful album cover, and the most beautiful music to go along with it.

Well Rok, for whatever reason, we both celebrated; let the Frogman figure that one out.

Frogman, I know you're too young to remember this, but once upon a time there was a thing called a party line; this was when a number of people talked on the same line. If you picked up your phone and heard conversation, you simply hung up your phone. This is kind of the same thing; when somebody is addressing another person on this thread, you know that post isn't for you, and you simply ignore it; would that work for you. Just kidding, I know it won't, but I'm just trying to be creative, maybe you can come up with a better idea.

All of Frogman's comments in regard to my comments on politics are moot; if you don't believe me, ask Rok.

If he had stayed out, this wouldn't be going on.

Frogman, the only way you're going to quit shooting yourself in the foot, is to run out of bullets.

You just got to keep the faith, more "aficionados" than you can shake a stick at are on the way; just got to stick to the script and never get off subject.

BTW Alex, keep em comin.


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiSIQzwIPzQ


The sun will come out tomorrow.

I was listening to Etta Jones, "Don't Go To Strangers" and it was sounding so good; that made me think of the fact that good music never gets old. I heard this in 65 for the first time, and it sounds just as good, if not better today, than when I heard it then.

Personnel: Etta Jones: vocals; Frank Wess: flute, tenor saxophone; Richard Wyands: piano; Skeeter Best: guitar; George Duvivier: bass; Roy Haynes: drums.

Not just the vocals, but every note was singing; that caused me to think about the musicians on that album; they are stellar. Sometime I don't listen to the musicians as much as I did today, but if you focus on the music, the album will sound even better.


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBLaJtXbpRg


Enjoy the music.

Rok, that was some real honest to goodness "New Music" Chico Freeman is so original; that's on order, and I know it will get a lot of repeat play.

I'm gonna tell Frogman on Yall! This is definitely an "off topic" conversation. Is that you over there Frogman, I know you're not joining in this off topic conversation?

And to think, I just heard there was a herd of aficionados coming this way; no, they don't come in herds, but there was a bunch of em. Now I got it, there is a posse of aficionados riding on a herd of horses coming this way. Should I head them off at the pass, before they see you right in the middle of that "off topic" rig a maro?

What should I do Frogman?

I ask you in all honesty aficionados, was the Frogman's last post on, or off track? Was it "Kosure" according to his latest, for lack of a better word, "rantings"? Before I go into a long diatribe, I will wait for your response.

Pryso, what was presented was confusing, you didn't add any; just enjoy the music.

Here is a vocalist we seemed to have overlooked, she sounds so good late at night;


     
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmj-856HCGU


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASqfSNJ_Gis


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhGHMxrOdww


             

Take a step back in time with me and enjoy some forgotten vocalists. I got a thing about "Where Flamingos Fly"; I'm not sure I've been where flamingos fly, but it's for sure that's where I wanted to go when I heard this.

Linda Lawson came and went, but I liked her;


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE2C0kRBmj8


Another forgotten vocalist;


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1INhj10CiCE

Frogman, you knew I couldn't pass this up;


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--NmwLew8uk

Frogman, I made the same observations as you, but fortunately Rudy and the musicians saved the day.

It was good for me to see those local musicians; Terry the pianist, and Kenny Rice the drummer. Kenny was the musician I wrote about who sat at our table during the "Trane" set.

I often talked to "Terry",(who they introduced as an organist, but I thought of as a pianist) Where he played was my favorite hangout,so I saw him quite often. He was the go to pianist for the major jazz musicians who came to town without one. As good as he was, I wondered why he didn't leave St. Louis to become rich and famous. I discovered fortune didn't always come with fame, and besides, he made a good living without leaving St. Louis.

Even with Junior's shortcomings, this turned out to be a very revealing story for me.



            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdFYaK_nUCs


This Grant Green Trio made in 69, is the same as an old friend talking to me; that's the true "Grant Green sound", no frills; I heard him when he played for himself.









 

Two minutes ago anything other than jazz music was off subject when me and Rok were having a discussion, now anything goes.

Jazz, it's truly amazing how we have so many memories attached to the same record, from about the same time.

My girl friends friend, Loretta, used to give lawn parties where she bar b qued, prepared fine side dishes, and invited some of the most interesting people. At that time we were all drinking "Cold Duck" wine, and our favorite record was "Cold Duck Time". This record puts those times into vivid focus.



            [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ago8dP4fFA[/url]




Enjoy the music.

This tune takes me back to Chicago. The name of the tune is "Harlem Nocturne". For the sake of my scenario, let's call it "Chicago Nocturne", or "Chicago Night". Picture this; I'm in the back seat of a sky blue, and white two tone, 56 Bel Aire chevy convertible, with an arm full of beautiful young girl (teenagers in love), and we're gazing up at the Chicago Skyline, (one of the most fantastic in the world) while cruising Lake Shore Drive in mid summer, with a cool breeze blowing off of Lake Michigan; that's about as close to heaven as I ever have been or ever will be.

Pick your favorite version of "Harlem Nocturne", or take all three.




                          [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6J2hSOq31k[/url]



                          [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ziYBiMiq0[/url]




                          [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfWbRWTfKFg[/url]






Enjoy the music.

Alex there's no way I can get enough West Coast. Since this thread began "West Coast" is the only genre we haven't explored. My West Coast records went with the wind, or something like that, because they mysteriously disappeared.

Back when West Coast was hot, I recall me and a friend going to movies just for the soundtrack. Some of the very best jazz of that genre was attached to movies; if only I could remember the movie; I think there's a surfer movie that has a good soundtrack.

You're doing fine, keep up the good work.

Forest Flower was one of the first albums that sold over a million copies; it's amazing how everybody seems to like the same music I like.



Enjoy the music.

Alex, that's it; do you know if the CD is available?

Shelly Manne, you got him. How about "Speak Low".



                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOokrsEAJ6Q




Enjoy the music.

"Speak Low" 1943 is a popular song composed by Kurt Weill, with lyrics by Ogden Nash. It was introduced by Mary Martin and Kenny Baker in the Broadway musical One Touch of Venus 1943. The 1944 hit single was by Guy Lombardo and his orchestra, with vocal by Billy Leach. Barbra Streisand recorded a David Foster arrangement of "Speak Low" for her album Back to Broadway 1993

The tune is a jazz standard that has been widely recorded, both by vocal artists from Billie Holiday and Tony Bennett to The Miracles and Dee Dee Bridgewater, and such instrumentalists as Bill Evans, Sonny Clark with John Coltrane, Roy Hargrove, Woody Shaw, and Brian Bromberg. Ella Fitzgerald and Joe Pass recorded this in 1983 (on CD Speak Love). Al Caiola's 1961 version reached #105 on Cashbox magazine's "Looking Ahead" survey.

The opening line "Speak low when you speak, love" is a play of words on a line in William Shakespeare's Much Ado About Nothing (1600), in which Don Pedro says "Speak low if you speak love."

"Speak Low" is featured in the German film Phoenix 2014 film.



This has been one of my favorite tunes for ages, and I just learned this today. We're all going to get smart together.


Enjoy the music.

Very good Acman!

How about an interlude;


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iat62Ab87qs

This is the first new music I've liked in some time; it's got what it takes to take me on a journey to someplace I've alwys wanted to go, but never been; Orion 10.


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUaQimTc1yk


It's on order.

Ghosthouse, on a clear night when you could see all the stars, I would wonder what space travel is like; that's when I would imagine a journey through an outer galaxy to "Orion 10", a distant star, or planet, and this music is just right for a space flight.

I liked a lot of "Mahavishnu", especially in the early 70's; cut from "The Emerald Green Beyond".


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSh0nmretso


Listening to them live in a small club is an experience I would most certainly cherish; I recall hearing incredible groups in small clubs, and the experience is beyond description.

Pryso, when I first heard "Hudson", I must have been listening to "Hard bop" just before hearing it, and in that kind of groove.

Let me tell you and Ghosthouse about a very unusual experience; I hardly remember hearing "Hudson" when Ghosthouse told me about my first review. I suspect it's because I can't switch from "Hard bop" to fusion; one of them won't sound quite right; I guess it's like going from whisky to wine.

Rok, I think you should see Michael Moore's movie where he tells how good he lived as a child on the salary his father earned working in a factory.

Do you remember when the manipulated price of gasoline was $4.00 a gallon; what do you think that did to the lower middle class, and who do you think raked off the "manipulated profits" in the commodity markets; have you ever heard of Mann Financial, can you say "Oligarch".

Who rakes in the manipulated prices of prescription drugs, that people on a fixed income have to pay. That welfare crap is just something to make poor southerners feel wealthy and superior.

Rok, I don't begrudge the good life you have lived thanks to "Sam", and the good life you're living now. You didn't even have to make a dental appointment, you were called when it was time.

All those years, as well as these years prevented you from seeing how reality is manipulated, and I understand that. Once upon a time, I believed most of the things you still believe. I bet you even remember "Blackhawk" comic books. Many things you say I use to believe, and wish they were still true; especially "Justice and The American Way", but it's no longer true, and it's a falsehood that's not easily discovered.

Those men worked in factories in order to send their kids to college, so that they would not have to work in factories;Time magazine named Moore one of the world's 100 most influential people.

Sounds like Mike's old man knew what he was doing.

The people who ripped off this entire country didn't even smell the gas that went into their fleets of automobiles; they used servants for that, and even had a special one for the "Rolls".

They were the people who paid for the government you think you elected. Those people told the politicians (they paid for) to tell the CFTC to look the other way while this country got "fleeced", and you kept a sharp eye on "Welfare cheats".

Rok, lets say the guy in Texas sells his gas to the Mercantile Exchange for $1.50 a gallon. The gas stations then buy this gas and charge $2.00 which is the cost of handling and profit; but the gas I'm talking about changed hands a time or two, between the front door and the back door, and left Mercantile costing $3.50. a gallon, and everybody paid $4.00 a gallon; what happened to the $1.50 that gas went up in price between the front door and the back door?

The same thing happened to all the commodities that went through those exchanges during that period of time; that includes everything we purchase to live. It cost the average family $200. dollars more a month to live; that included you. $200. dollars a month is a lot, or nothing a month depending on your income, but almost everybody paid it because nobody can live without food and gas.

When you multiply $200. dollars a month times every family in this country during that period of time, it comes to quite a bundle. Now you can see how "oligarchs" live so well, but you kept your eye on them "welfare cheats"; that should have saved a bundle when you reported them.  

Rok, personally I don't play that "Liberal", "Conservative" game; is the guy honest or dishonest. If the conservatives are my supposed enemies, I would much prefer an honest conservative to a dishonest Liberal; that name tag game is foolish.

Now I'm back to the music, and I promise that I'll review all music that has been submitted, which is quite a backlog.

"The Penguin Guide To Jazz" numbers "Destiny's Dance" among the core collection which jazz fans should possess; and I thought I had them all. Better late than never.

Chico Freeman - tenor saxophone, bass clarinet

Wynton Marsalis - trumpet (tracks 1, 3, 4 & 6)

Bobby Hutcherson - vibraphone

Dennis Moorman - piano (tracks 1, 4 & 6)

Cecil McBee - bass

Ronnie Burrage - drums

Paulinho Da Costa - percussion (track 4


These are the tracks;
"Destiny's Dance" - 4:11
"Same Shame" - 5:37
"Crossing the Sudan" - 5:46
"Wilpan's Walk" - 9:18
"Embracing Oneness" - 6:59
"C & M"


Although this was recorded in 1981, it could have been recorded yesterday. The reason I'm posting it again is to point out how outstanding an album it is.

"Wilpan's Walk" is too tough, Bobby Hutcherson kills the vibes, and that guy on trumpet is not at all shabby, he's blowing his tail off on this one. When you are listening and looking at who is blowing at the same time, that gives added depth to the music. Dennis Moorman on piano is new to me. Paulinho Da Costa on percussion is all over the place in my collection, but Ronnie Burrage on drums is unfamiliar.


  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRih07ksHDE




Here is another one of Chico Freeman's tunes that gets repeated play in my collection. I'm still going through posts for outstanding music to make sure I don't overlook yours


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buFUP2LvK2s


Enjoy the music.

Frogman, I didn't look it up because that would be cheating, but after listening, I think it was Johnny Hodges. Could you look it up and fine who the alto soloist was. I'll be back to find out.

While I couldn't find out who played the alto sax solo with Duke Ellington on "Harlem Nocturne", I did find St. Louis Blues played by Johnny Hodges. All of us can compare the two, and vote whether or not Johnny Hodges did the solo with the Duke.




                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NJcTWZYS20





Enjoy the music.

Frogman, if there was a grand prize, you would win it. Although I knew it wasn't written by Duke Ellington, I thought the band was his because that's what it said. It's for sure I'm no big band expert, as my collection attests to that fact.

Are the musical 'you tubes' getting as fake as the one's with an anaconda wrapped around an elephant or a lion. Since anacondas live in South America, and lions and elephants in Africa, we would have to have a jet setting anaconda.

Thanks for the detective work, maybe Mike Hammer could use some help?




Enjoy the music.

Alex, I have a worn out record with Bud Shank Titled "Koto and Flute" that I haven't been able to find. This sounds as close to one of the tunes as I can get, but not nearly as good. Bud Shank blew some boss flute.


                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKYMEseTZxE



This might be a little closer, but Bud Shank was on his A+ game when he recorded that because I wore the record out, and haven't been able to replace it.



                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inRNgpqyWPw




Here's Bud Shank with "Nature Boy"



                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4923bpN3Vo







Enjoy the music

I am profoundly moved by certain songs, that's because they touched on my life experiences.

When I was a tot (that was a long time ago) I recall a junkman pulling his cart down the alley behind us; it was like a rickshaw with wagon wheels that wobbled and squeaked when he pulled his cart. Nina Simone came out with a song titled "Rags and Old Iron"; this was about the same time, the love of my life got married to someone other than me. I'll let you put that song and my sentiments together.


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLqr_T04oMU



Carley Simon has a number of songs on her "Film Noir" CD that touch me; almost all of them as a matter of fact, but I'll only touch upon two.


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtErjfhpJEc


"Somewhere In The Night" is an endless search for lost love.


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ugFD8jjAcw


Have you ever thought about how innocently a love affair begins; "Softly As In A Morning Sunrise". After which it blazes hotter than the noon Sun, but the Sun has to set and the light that gave you glory will take it all away.


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IwisoDrK0I


If it's not too painful, maybe you could share songs that affect you on a deeply personal level?


           

Mary-Jo, that Lucio Dalla was deep, about as deep as you can get.

I thought "Dance With Me" was most unique, and I thank you for sharing.

Since we are kind of like friends, I don't have a problem in sharing emotions that are brought about by certain songs, our emotions are what makes the song "real", and each song has a real story attached to it.

I appreciated your contribution.

Alex, this is one dynamite tune. It happened to be on the juke box of my favorite lounge, and there is no telling how many quarters I put in that juke box to hear this. (juke boxes were the first high end) Music sounds so much better when shared with charming people while sipping on something cool.

Gerry Mulligan is most certainly one of my favorite baritone saxophonist, and he burns this tune.





              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syIgRlaUeow




Enjoy the music.