Jazz for aficionados

These are some super hip dudes; "The Jazztet" featuring Art Farmer and Benny Golson

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u23Etcb-L9M&list=PLafagIBDy-VK16r59rYQmmTdBJAZAJH8f&index=1


The epitome of Cool;


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt3B1g3jkhE&list=PLafagIBDy-VK16r59rYQmmTdBJAZAJH8f&index=2

Rok, do you know what "genocide" is? That's the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.

This country watched Genocide on national television when they watched the "Katrina Aftermath" for 3 whole days on national TV. All George Bush had to do was call the disaster center at Scott AFB Ill., and go back to bed; they had the resources and were prepared to take care of everything, including coordinating "all" military resources. I know, I was stationed at Scott for four years.

That's one of the few bases where the base commander was a full bird Colonel, while there were Generals who commanded world wide movement of military resources stationed on the same base.

Many times I was awaken at 2:30 AM or some ungodly hour by someone screaming "Alert,Alert, Alert"; that meant get dressed, shagg A--, and get on the big blue bus. It was to carry us to the disaster site, where we were to give life saving first aid to the victims of this disaster, which might be real or just a drill; I was a medic.

The victims were made up to look like they had various injuries; they had a tag attached to them which we were to write down what we discovered and treatment administered. At the end of the day we were critiqued by doctors, who discussed whether our patient lived or died.

Scott AFB had everything to take care of that disaster and then some. Why wasn't this ever mentioned? The military can never question "The Commander In Chief", that's for sure.



The irony of what I've written is that Scott AFB was called to duty 8 months prior to "Hurricane Katrina" for a tsunami disaster.


    http://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/135288/amc-aircraft-people-support-
tsunami-relief-operations/


These resources could be utilized for people half way around the world, but not for the citizens of New Orleans; why I ask you?

bluesy41  who you?   Identify  yo self.

Rok, I understand your response, and that's such a horrible word, that I wont use it twice.

I only ask, from one military man to another, that you carefully examine my post; especially the link.

Here is something by Don Cherry that's music to my ears, I hope you like it;


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuwDDz933ZI


Charles Earland is drifting;


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cei2nxUhhB4


Enjoy the music.

Pryso, I told you we had almost identical collections, and that's another one I bought when it came out. That's the longest cut which means it's probably my favorite.

I appreciate that music now, more than I did when I bought it; part of that is due to my understanding of the music, and the other part is the fact that every forum on "Audiogon" is part of the composite of an "Audiophile", and after many years, when it all comes together in one rig, and one mind, we are closer to the ultimate in music than we think.


Happy listening.

Is Mingus volatile or what? I'm going to give that music a serious listen.

Alex, the very first thing that impressed me about Clarence Shaw's record was the cover; a picture of urban decay; that means he has consideration for those at the bottom.

I can't quite explain it, but there is something about the music that sounds like Chicago; it's hip, classic jazz, that rings of the South Side. (that was when there was only one "South Side", and that was the South Side of Chicago, even Al Capone was headquartered on the South Side in much earlier times)

This music was made for settling back into your favorite chair, and just letting the music absorb you. That trumpet is so smooth and unpretentious, while the accompanying musicians blend in perfectly; I hope this album is still available.

Ghosthouse, this is the first time I heard someone other than Mingus play "Goodbye Porkpie Hat". This captures the spirit of sadly missing "Porkpie Hat".

Here's a vocal version of "Goodbye Porkpie Hat"


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuoXYHQJvpU

Pryso, I've read "Beneath the Underdog" and followed Mingus as well; the man was a stick of dynamite with a short fuse. I thought his encounter with "Fat Gal" was touching. (it's a shame, but I can't recall his real name at the moment)

Inna, after that post, somebody will have to come up with a new word for "exaggeration".

Alex, here's something else for the city. Picture that time of evening when the sky turns dark red, but not dark enough for window lights in the skyscrapers to stand out bold. That's the prelude to a lot of things; maybe even a kiss; that's the prelude to "Bohemia After Dark".


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5EwGijmqKc


Bohemia after dark is all the way live; all the love that life can promise is just waiting for someone to be at the right place with the right words spoken to the right woman at the right time. ( 40 or 50 years ago of course) on one of the many streets of dreams.


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOQzRwUNS2g


     

Acman, it's hard to believe how long we have been into Mingus without a dull moment. It's more like we've reviewed several different musicians; I wonder if Mingus had multiple personalities? I know I never get tired of all of them, and to think I had forgotten about that one.

I like to be competitive when it comes to posting selections; I want to post something at least as good as the last five that have been posted, but that's going to take awhile, 5 days maybe.

Here's a forgotten musician that I'll have to get more of; this is Mr. Billy Bang on violin.


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVJMOpIHBgc


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryU4UL9E0Fo

These are some of the best contributions I can recall; the last "Weird Nightmare" is especially notable, Debbie Harry is new to me, this vocal puts me into her "Weird Nightmare".


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCmjeqo9iRc

Although this is a jazz thread, I think this pop documentary is worth presenting. Since I'm almost strictly into jazz, most of you will know more about "Debbie Harry" than me.


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJaS5mEuWCQ

We have strayed a long way from "classic jazz", which is exemplified by "Clarence Shaw", to "Weird Nightmare", and "Saigon Phunk", but I think that if you are a "serious listener" you can appreciate them both more because of the contrast.

Billy Bangs "Chan Chan" is about as far from classic jazz as you can get, but I enjoyed it even more after listening to Clarence Shaw's "Breakthrough" which was the epitome of "classic jazz". Instead of just listening to the one cut that was posted, I discovered that if you just let "you tube play" you could get into where the artist was coming from.

On Yo! Ho Chi Minh is in The House, I got into the oriental aspect of the music, especially Bang's violin; but serious listeners settle in for the long haul, and complete enjoyment of the music, including the setting, which was "Vietnam" on this one.

Out of all the music that's been posted, could you let me know which one you did some serious listening to?

Ghosthouse, I remembered the name "Blondie", but since I wasn't into it, that's all I remember.

If I had known what you know, I would not have posted that documentary.

Pryso, there is nothing I like better than oriental mixed with jazz. let us hear your favorite.

Before now, I thought I had almost all of Mingus, but it seems that I'm missing more than I thought; that's because he recorded so prolifically. I see that he has the same group as on his most famous album "Mingus Ah Um". He can work things around so many different ways, that it's essential to get "all" of Mingus in order to know him; this is on order.

Pryso, "Mingus Ah Um" had better recording quality than what is posted; how is the recording quality of your "Ming Dynasty"? What I'm hearing could just be a bad post.

I'm not a geek when it comes to recording quality, just fairly good is sufficient.

Inna, here's Flamenco with the exotic film clips; the music ain't bad either.


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK6H4mZK9Rw


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oymEZzEXHvQ

Traveling across the Sahara Desert in a caravan has always been one of my fantasies, going all the way back to my childhood, and sometimes I slip into them when I hear music involving camels and the desert.

Take the lyrics to "Caravan"


  "Caravan"

Night and stars above that shine so bright
The myst'ry of their fading light
That shines upon our caravan

Sleep upon my shoulder as we creep
Across the sand so I may keep
The mem'ry of our caravan

This is so exciting
You are so inviting
Resting in my arms
As I thrill to the magic charms

Of you beside me here beneath the blue
My dream of love is coming true
Within our desert caravan!



      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTjPAjq8OMY


Can't you just picture yourself with this exotic creature in your arms while creeping across the desert in a caravan, (I don't know how that works, it's not exactly the same as a limo)


Then there is Hugh Masekela who sings about actually going across the desert in a caravan; so this is what it's really like; he's actually done this before, what an adventure.


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YJCDQ2i5ME


Can anybody chip in to help me on my journey across the desert?


           

Schubert, while I agree with you about all of those artists, there is one who needs to be added, and that is the one commonly known as "Jug".  

On the jazz scene,  it's not until after you have acquired your "moniker" that is well known on the street, that you have arrived.  As a matter of fact, I'm not going to tell his name, because if you don't know jazz artists by their "street names" you're not an aficionado.

Pryso, that means if you have it, it's of good recording quality.

I'll just disregard the you tube link, and thanks for a recommendation that I had overlooked.

Here are two of Gene Ammons very well known hits; "Canadian Sunset" and "Jungle Strut"



          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vl4_f8Emtw


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ3ERhE0KWo

Since I can't get any help, I'll just have to boogy my caravan across the desert all by myself;  


                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9LWw7-VMm0

Mary-jo, I posted this album sometime ago before you joined us, so I decided to post it again for you and anyone who hasn't heard it.

This is one of the first albums I ever purchased; it's by Johnny Smith on guitar, and features three tenors; Stan Getz, Zoot Sims, and Paul Quinichette.

There is not one bad cut on the entire album.


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRNpc-hFkCs

Quincy Jones with "What's Going On";


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tYQRzOFbHA

This Bud is just for you Rok; this is what was done for people half way across the world


      http://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/135288/amc-aircraft-people-support-


This is what was done for the predominately Black citizens of New Orleans.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCDJ3vxMHdo


Young educated African Americans are going to "Viet Nam"; they are going to "South Africa"; they are going to Cambodia, Thailand; they are getting out of Dodge. They got the message, it's time to leave town.


  BLAME THE VICTIM FOR THE CRIME; what else is new?


"This is not the forum" I served for four years in the outfit that was trained to respond to disasters like New Orleans; I earned the right to respond on any forum I please.

Frogman, one time you blamed Rok's controversial comments for the lack of posters; he left for a year and it got worse. After that you blamed me, I left and it went to 0; it seems that you couldn't keep things going alone, but I'm sure you don't remember that.

My posts pertain to things that should be important to citizens of this country who value "Democracy", not "Autocracy"; who is minding the store? If we can not discuss music and other things important to this Democracy, maybe it's time for this thread to die.

"views that I and others strongly believe are off the mark and not rooted in reality."

Was what you saw on TV fantasy or reality?

Frogman, I wish I was you; playing with my nice rig, and listening to good music (not that I don't have both) but the difference is the fact that I am aware of many more "realities" than you, and they keep disturbing me.

My posts will make about as much difference as another drop of water in the Pacific Ocean, but this is who I am and what I do; now back to the music.


Acman, was that your version of "Back to the music"?



This is what's playing where I am;


  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BJNxVf_iLM


  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF_Kwdmg1Cg


 

Frogman, what you have not stated speaks volumes about who you are, what you have not looked at speaks volumes about who you are. Did you look at the two links I presented?

As far as I'm concerned, your posts confirm all of my thesis in regard to the "United States of America". "If you see a lynching folks, just look the other way". If you see Black bodies floating all over New Orleans just look the other way.

They sent the "Keystone Cops" and a bunch of stooges to New Orleans, while they sent the "A" Team half way around the world; would you care to comment on that FACT Frogman?

Schubert, this is not the country we were raised to believe in.

I had one uncle who went crazy in the Burma Campaign because of the snakes. I had another uncle who fought in "The Battle of The Bulge", he told me about bullets whistling past his ears, and seeing bloody soldiers falling to the left and right of him; the order was to "charge", and that's what they did. He was certain that each minute would be his last. I could see fear and determination in his eyes when he told me this.

For four years I trained at Scott AFB to respond to disasters, only to see the outfit I trained with, to go to the Pacific Ocean, and not to New Orleans where they could have saved so many lives; you think I'm not upset; especially when everything is getting worse, including reaction to injustice.

"Stolen Moments" is one of the most incredible tunes in jazz, and now I can savor each note.

By the way Pryso, I just acquired 2 pair of Telefunken Black Diamond E88CC / 6922. Not the expensive NOS but new ones with the same number. One pair for the phono, and another pair for the pre; that really upped my game.

I just thought I would pass this along just in case you can use them.

Pryso, As to the answer to your question, I have no idea. I don't know when I bought it, but I'm sure it wasn't in 61 when it came out.

Rok, has finally found someone who appreciates the Bey Family as much as he does; I dub thee "The Blues Brothers 2"

It's amazing Pryso that I should have the same sentiments but would never admit it.

That post was in regard to Ellington only.

I liked that Rok, especially the pictures.

I've got a bunch of Duke Ellington CD's, I forgot when I bought them; probably acquired over time while shopping, but I haven't really listened to them; now is a good time.

Alex, people evolve and change over time; for example, in the past I didn't listen to Duke Ellington; too old fashioned, plus I was always in a hurry. Now I've got nowhere to go and forever to get there.

As a result of "Duke Ellington" aficionados, I will investigate.

How about a change of pace with some swinging female vocals;


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-QpUr-A_BA


Karrin Allyson, "No Moon At All";


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWdgG7TJl7Y

Some great jazz artists are so well known that instead of their given names, their albums are titled by their street names, such as "Bean Bags".


        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bean_Bags

Schubert, devout fans of Gene Ammons like myself, couldn't care less if you never even heard of Gene Ammons, much less how much you listen to him.

Here are a couple more tunes by Ammons that I like.


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If77_P8v7iE



            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AFyS7sZvN0

Evidently, this is provoke Orpheus night; because the only comments that have come in recently are in that direction.

Inna, I asked you a question so long ago that I forgot what the question was, now you come in siding with Schubert about Gene Ammons, when this is the first time I ever heard you comment on Gene Ammons, I'm not sure you know who he is.

You understand Schubert, who listens to classical music and comes down hard on one of the most outstanding jazz musicians, on a jazz thread. I don't think you or Schubert understand each other.

I wouldn't want to listen to anybody all day, but the question is, "What elicited that statement."

Gene Ammons ranks with the top musicians of all time, and I believe this website establishes  his credentials;


                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Amm


Inna and Schubert, have either one of you heard of Vanessa Mae? I posted her way back in relation to caravans; she is "Classical" and neither one of you commented, what gives; must be "donnybrook" night.