Jazz for aficionados

Since it is assumed we are all "jazz aficionados"; we have the right to reject the music for whatever reason we choose.

While others who have been deemed objective experts can qualify the music, as fans and consumers of this music, it's only necessary that we purchase it if we like it.

As OP of this jazz thread maybe I have more responsibility than others, but I have always shared that responsibility as to what is "good jazz" and we have come to a unanimous conclusion.

While I have my opinions in regard to specific cuts on an album, as well as the album itself; they have never been too far outside prevailing views of other members of this forum.


If anyone of us finds the societal moves away from “old school” values to only be a negative and without any redeeming value (iow, the type of person who believes that society today and it’s values is inherently worse than in the past) then that is the type of individual who is more prone to not like or appreciate art that reflects the current society regardless of that art’s ultimate quality as defined by criteria that are not only subjective, but also objective.


That is a very difficult paragraph to interpret, but I would never accept anything just because it's new.


Back to the original question, "Can anyone present jazz, or any music that is a reflection of this society"?

nsp, 

As you must know, that Alpert cover has become one of the most famous over the years for LPs.

Regarding "Time After Time", it becomes confusing because of two different songs with the same title.  Baker covered the original while Miles adapted Cyndi Lauper's -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wBgcalM4c4

For Sarah, her only album I own is "After Hours", which I think is good, but have nothing else for comparison.

o10, not to get political but I can't imagine wanting any present jazz which reflects current society.  Too much discord and lack of tolerance.

Pryso, I think you have hit upon something, maybe that's why we never discuss "current" music, because there is very little worth discussing.

I noticed sometime ago when I bought a fairly current CD, it only had 1 cut that appealed to me, now I don't even bother.

What we talk about and like as a forum speaks for itself without my input.


I'm still waiting for the "new music", and I want each one of us to make sure they comment on it.

After this, we will return to whatever we like as individuals, and are comfortable with.

Enough talk, how about some good music;


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Q30Zq3IHU

**** but I have always shared that responsibility as to what is "good jazz" and we have come to a unanimous conclusion.****

Huh? Sometimes yes and sometimes no. Unanimous? With all the disagreement about new vs old jazz? Perhaps we have different definitions of “unanimous”. Not that I have an issue with disagreement, I don’t; but hardly unanimous I think. Plenty of discussion about the new music, btw. Perhaps I dreamt it 😊.

**** but I would never accept anything just because it’s new. ****

Of course not and I agree, and there was no suggestion that one should. Just as we shouldn’t accept anything simply because it’s old.

Agree re Sarah Vaughn “Send In The Clowns”. Thanks, pryso. Great choice for “standard” status and one which probably already is; performed and recorded many many times.

nsp: Sarah Vaughn “Live In Japan”, fantastic live double album. And of course, “In The Land Of Hi Fi” and “SV With Clifford Brown”. The latter two are classics and available only in mono (I believe, mine are), but great sound if somewhat “vintage”, if you know what I mean.