Phono cable advice.


What are some good phono cable options for around $150ish and under? So far I’m looking at BJ LC-1 and Zu Audio Mission cables. This would be for between my Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC Esprit and most likely (still looking) a MoFi StudioPhono preamp. I have an extra pair of Kimber Silver Streak cables but they don’t look insulated well enough. I’ll be running DH Labs Air Matrix from my preamp to KEF LS50 Wireless speakers. I’d like something I can grow out a little with as I incrementally upgrade things. Stylus (Blue 2M?) is probably next.

Thanks for any input.
asahitoro

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The Audiosensibility Impact SE copper cable is an outrageous bargain, and an even more outrageous bargain when the US to Canadian dollar exchange rate is factored in.

Significantly better than the Jelco cable, which I’ve owned, grossly superior to Van den Hul 502, which I also have here (wouldn’t have the heart to sell it to anyone) and currently retails for around $450 U.S. apparently. Also significantly better than a custom cable I had built using Cardas wire, Vampire RCA’s and a Cardas phono DIN.

The AS cable is cryoed (as were my Jelco and Cardas) and it is very worthwhile to pay Steve the nominal fee for burn-in on the cable before purchase.

I have two of them (originally bought one for a second arm and then immediately purchased another one to replace the Jelco) and was pretty shocked at the improvement they made over the Jelco and Cardas cables. The Van den Hul cable IMO is simply an extremely poor cable and value, even though it or a variation of it is the stock cable with the SME arms. (Full disclosure-I have never heard it with an SME arm).
I am not noromance or wolf garcia but yes, your link to the RCA to RCA Jelco is the same cable sold with a phono DIN to RCA or XLR as the Jelco 501 and Jelco 506 respectively.

For what it is worth, the Jelco cables are constructed with Mogami 2534, so if you could find a standard set of Mogami 2534 RCA to RCA interconnects the difference would be in the RCA’s used in each application.

Link below would allow you to do a 3 foot pair for under $40, although I have no idea of the quality of the RCA’s. The Jelco RCA’s may indeed be superior-I don’t know. I ran the Jelco as a fully balanced cable: phono DIN to XLR.

http://www.proaudiola.com/product-p/1-m2534-rca-rca-1.htm
Wow-tough crowd here! It’s getting a bit nasty.

I may as well throw in a few comments.

Firstly, Dopogue is absolutely right about cable burn in, especially on phono cable which is subjected to such a small signal under normal circumstances that it may never fully break in. Which is why I strongly recommended anyone purchasing the Audio Sensibility cable earlier in the thread pay the extra few bucks for the optional burn in.

For the past 10-15 years every piece of cabling in my system has been cyrogenically treated and then burned in either on the Nordost cooker or the Audiodharma including all 4 phono cables that I’ve used over the years. Both Steve at Audio Sensibility and Gene at Takefiveaudio (who built a custom phono cable for me years ago with Cardas wire) use the Audiodharma.

Secondly, the Jelco phono cable (at least the Jelco 506 balanced/XLR version I used) is not poorly constructed, nor does it sound like junk. Is there better out there? I’m sure there is. For the price, though, I think it is a good, very high value cable which bettered both the Cardas wire/Din/Vampire XLR cable which Gene constructed for me and Van den Hul 502, which I believe is the stock cable included with the upper end SME tonearms and retails for around $450.

In my opinion, the Audio Sensibility Impact SE copper cable easily bested all of these though as I said earlier, and not by insignificant margins. For perspective, this is on a Gyrodec with Sumiko FT3/Jelco 750D arms and an AT 33 Mono & Accuphase AC2 cartridges into an Aqvox phono preamp.

Whether the differences would be as pronounced on the OP’s equipment I don’t know, and then subjective listening preferences, as always come into play. I hope the Audio Sensibility works out for him, or the Jelco, even though I consider it to be considerably inferior. And the DH Labs might be interesting as well. I have no experience with DH Labs interconnects but do use their power cabling in my system and it is a very high value cable.

Finally, Mogami (real Mogami-not fake) manufactures a lot of different wire, almost all of it reasonably priced. But there are certainly lower quality lines within Mogami that possibly do not offer much in terms of performance.

Their 3103/3104 speaker cable, for example, is anything but junk. The 3103 outperformed Kimber 8TC in my system at a fraction of the price (about 1/6th of the cost actually) and there are many 3103/3104 users that have compared it to much more expensive offerings and are using it in moderate to high end systems with very good results.

Finally, if the OP is indeed using wireless speakers and the signal is ultimately being digitised, it would seem to be self-defeating in terms of investing a lot of time and effort into an analog front end. 


Good luck! As a geezer, I am totally confused by the wireless thing but have fun and report back after you're done so you can rile up the masses here a bit more haha!