Recent equipment you hated, thought overpriced

David12, first off, I normally don't add to these threads after my first post. They always seem to turn ugly, and I refuse to get caught up in that. To me, proof is something that can be measured. I will admit, everything doesn't fall into that catagory. To me, I think thats rare. I have added things at home that didn't seem to make an audible difference. If you do that with 5 things, then took them all out, I think that might be audible. Some things I've seen, but not limited to, would be the likes of the "teleportation tweak", jars of pebbles, temple bells, dishes filled with water, dots on your walls, and on and on. There are just to many to list. People must buy them, so there is a market. I could tell you a certain size block of wood, sanded with a secret combination of sandpaper, and placed under my chair made my system sound better. Some fool would buy it. To me, this is nothing but "snakeoil". Do I know, or understand everything? Certainly not. It's my opinion, nothing more. I think just a bit of common sense should tell you if it even has a chance to help. For the people that buy these things, and believe, good for you. I'm just never going to be one of them. Anyone that cares to throw the insults, or testimonials, go ahead, I won't be debating it.

Zydo, no insult intended, I assure you. The point I was trying to make, is that very few things seem to be measurable, to everyone's satisfaction. We are reduced then to what works for each of us, in our own systems, perhaps backed by others opinions, when listening to the system, as I suggested with the Quantum QB4 in my system.

In that context, discussion can become pointless. I wouldn't challenge your opinion about what works in your system, any more than I would accept your telling me I am wrong about what I hear in mine.

linkster, the Ultras were used under turntable, CD player and amp, compared with original Stillpoints+risers. The most audible difference and there was one, was under the turntable, where they stayed. To me the difference wasn't worth the price hike. Again, just my opinion.

I loved the Rolex I had. I sold it and invested in gold silver plat and finally got my hands on some rhodium. With the profits I make I'll get another Rolex for a lot less than I paid for the first one. At least it will do something. TWEEKS don't. Keep right on fooling yourselves. Maybe someone could try using Shakti's as speaker stands with still points under them, and whatever you do don't forget bybee bullets. Let us know how the combo works for you. Maybe I'll try a silver brick on top of my components and some stacked gold coins under the feet. I'll bet the sound is amazing.

Is suspect if one rings that bell enough it can make almost anything sound good from there!

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David, I was not the least bit insulted. I think most things can be measured. Maybe not by me at home, but it can be done. That being said, if you read a review, and something tests better on paper, it doesn't mean that it will be more pleasing to me. (or you for that matter) The fact is, I believe you should be able to test something and show it makes a difference. Good or bad, who's to say? What I enjoy, you may not, and vise versa. I might love something that tests poorly. The claims by sellers that have no reviews, or scientific back up, seem a waste of time. I'm always willing to listen, but i'm a sceptic. Someone that thinks it has to help, probably hears something different. If thats the case, for them it does. Myself, I have a real hard time spending money on those things. I wish these posts could go on without the insults that always end up ruining the discussion. I'm afraid my answer earlier may have seemed like it was directed at a single person, or company. It wasn't. For that, I apologize. It just happens to be what came to mind. The people that sell these things might be very passionate about what they sell. I would love to be able to have one of them come to my home, and set their stuff up. If they could convert me, anything is possible.