Does Cary stack up to ARC


I am considering a switch from ARC (VT50/LS15) to a Cary SLI 80 integrated. The integrated would help simplify my system. I would be able to get rid of the 50 foot balanced interconnects, and keep everything in one place. I like the detail and extension of the ARC system, but sometimes long for a bit warmer sound.

What are some of the things that I would loose or gain with the Cary?

Speakers are Shearwater Hotrods, with an ACI sub.
kettle7830
Audiotomb
I have tried many sets of tubes in the LS15. Currently I have 4 pre Bugle Boy Amprex in, they make a huge difference. As far as the amp, I think I am going to lock-tite the screws in. It had to go on a trip to ARC after an unfortunate tube rolling experience. By the way, ARC customer support and service is first class.

I tried an ARC integrated before my LS15/VT50 combo. Although it had the same sonic signature, the separates had a greater level of dynamics and resolution.

I guess it comes down to these issues:

- Am I loosing a lot if info with 50 foot XLR interconnects.

- Does the Cary "warm" sound equate to loss of detail?

- Am I taking a step down on the sonic ladder by going to an integrated source.

Based upon what has been covered here so far I think a trip to a Cary dealer is in my future.

Thanks
kettle
Hi Kettle7830, I have owned the Cary V-12. IMO, Sean and Bmotorcycle describe the V-12 (Cary sound) perfectly. My experience with Cary products has been they always work. I can't say the same for ARC. Every ARC product I have owned has been sent back to the factury for repair. Every one of them. I guess I should add that I have not owned an ARC amp or preamp for over 10 years. I am sure their quality control has improved.
kettle's dilema is more with long preamp to amp runs which the cary will simplify. THe LS15 doesn't have the beefed uppower transformer the older ls2 and ls5 had. So for long runs go with an ls5 (although it's all balanced inputs).

abe - did you use sovtek blue dots or red dots??
the blues are a little harder, the reds very warm,
and I hear the bugle boys/mullards have very warm tones

I will be tube rolling my ls5 and was looking to try those combos but 10 tubes at $40-50 a pop can be expensive
Cary's (there are so many of them) are typically on the darker richer sound of neutrality with a lot of extras that are not necessarily in the music but can be appealing non the less. They really do that blooming thing and you can be taken in by it. Kind of remind me of Dolly Parton all made up, voluptous comes to mind.

ARC = speed, more extension at both frequency extremes and a sound closer to neutrality with less of that bloom but still offering the presence that tubes are so noted for.

It is a matter of taste as are all things in this hobby. I certainly agree with Sean's assessment.