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low cost integrated amp for newbie

I'd like some advice on a low-cost integrated amp for a starter system. Under $300 would be my preference. Used is fine. I wouldn't call myself an audiophile (yet?) but I appreciate good design & quality sound. So far the only audiophile piece I've got is a NAD 4300 tuner, purchased at the advice of a co-worker who was determined to woo me into the realm of high-quality audio gear.

I was running the tuner through my old Sansui RZ-5000 receiver which is gradually losing its functionality (thus the tuner purchase in the first place). It was limping along until my most recent move. Now it cannot transmit to either left speaker channel, so I'm on a mono system at the moment. The receiver has always been a nuisance to use, even when it worked properly. The design and quality of NAD feels like a breath of fresh air after dealing with such cumbersome equipment. I want more like it.

I listen to lots of talk radio, folk, blues, and electronica. Sometimes from the internet, usually the airwaves. Of course I play CDs too, but maybe only 1/4 of the time. I seldom play anything terribly loud as I have a small house with oak floors. I'd rather have speakers in every room than blast the volume from one spot.

My current speakers are JBL ("JBL82," they say on the inside plate), circa mid-1980s. I have no idea how they compare to anything else quality-wise, I inherited them from a friend. They sound okay. Not amazing, not bad, but okay. Eventually they'll probably go, too.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts, or feel free to point me to existing threads.
ann
ann OP
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I have read reviews on several amps mentioned in this thread and am starting to get a sense of the differences between them (and between amps in general). One of the amps mentioned by a couple of you is the Acurus DIA-100. Wow, stellar reviews. However, I noticed that some reviewers mention the high degree of "detail" this amp provides, and how it can sound less-than-pleasant with lower quaity speakers. In fact, this "detail" issue was mentioned in reviews of other amps, too. This leaves me wondering if it would be better to get an amp designed for a more modest system.

This discussion is helping to clarify something for me: I was under the impression initially that there was some kind of absolute scale of good-better-best, but I'm concluding that at a certain point it boils down to context: what other gear you're combining it with and your personal preference for sound.

Time to head over to a listening room and educate my ears. Right now it's all too academic. I'm ready for some test-drives.
chams_uk
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The best advice yet, Ann: Your own ! Follow your ears, your heart, and your wallet :-)

Bring a selection of music you most like, good recording or not. Sometimes the dealer will try to impress you with superbly recorded "audiophile" music. And sometimes it sucks as music goes !

I bring my own music, as well as listen to some audiophile music. This way, I can judge the emotional impact better (my music, even if not recorded as well) and also the POTENTIAL of the gear (audiophile music).

Good luck, let us all know how you fare !

Todd - chams_uk
02pete
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I agree with Mcfavre4. A used NAD C340 or C350 would be a good match with your tuner, and have sufficient power and flexibility to handle a wide range of speakers. A used Creek 4330 might also be a good choice, if you could find one within your budget.For and/or reviews on these amps, see: http://207.228.230.217/info/NAD_C340.pdf
http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/archive/perl/629_printreview.htm
http://207.228.230.217/info/NAD_C350.pdf
http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/review_read.asp?ID=909
http://www.creekaudio.co.uk/products/old_products/4330mk2.asphttp://www.hifichoice.co.uk/review_read.asp?ID=321
Once you have an amp which is working properly and you've saved up some more money, you can think about other components such as your CD player, speakers, and interconnect cables and speaker cables; but one thing at a time for now.
jimel84
38 posts
 
You might give a listen to a Cambridge Audio A300 V.2. I have one in my bedroom system paired with B&W 303 bookshelf speakers. A very satisfying little system. I believe the Cambridge can be had at Audio Advisor for $250.00 new. Basicly a no brainer. I believe the Cambridge is designed by Mike Creek so in effect you are buying a poor mans Creek.Good luck in your quest and let your ears be the final judge.
crazy4blues
243 posts
 
How about a Jolida 102b? Used you might be able to find one for about $350-$400. I think that you'd like what this little amp does to vocals.
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