Von Schweikert VR4JR & Tube Amp???

Thanx Mjcmt; I would agree with our assessment 100% and am working on the room as we speak. I did not know however that drop ceilings would accentuate bass? I thought bass was controlled or affected more from corner treatments. Can you expound on this a bit. It might help me. Thanx

Pawlowski6132

My experience shows that the area above the drop ceiling and between the floor joists acts like a drum. The area is hollow above the panels. The bass becomes boomy in there and is magnified. Insulating above the drop ceiling makes a big difference to absorb aggressive bass. That is how a bass trap works.

Also, the drop ceiling grid is thin metal and can resonate. Remember the drop in panels, drop in fixtures, and grid are loosely attached. It is more expensive, but a insulated D/W ceiling is much better.

The best I've ever heard VS 4Jr sound was with...don't flame me...the DK VS1-mk2 integrated using Mullard NOS tube in the preamp section.

I have been curious about the DK VS-1, I read somewhere on this site that it sounds great with the Jr's but can't recall if it was a dealer's claims or not.

Permit me to chime in here thuogh all may be settled at this time... I've a pair of the JR's. All BAT gear, vk5i, and vk500. I currently love the sound I'm getting though I've still a ways to go... acousticaly speaking, myself.

#1 thing I did to improve things along the lines of bass and overall sound was repositioning the speakers.. for the umpteenth time... my carpet looks like a shooting range if you get close to it... John at Cardass told me the following: and it coincides withthe info posted at their website... Draw a rectangle (with some masking tape or the like), one of two ways... either 5 feet from the side walls, and eight feet from the rear wall, or three feet from the side walls, and five feet from the rear walls. #2 Then strike the diagonal from the corner of the room to the corner of the rectangle. Setting the JR'S along that line with the bass driver dead center on it and parallel to the other speaker. Big, Big, help. that procedure addresses 'two' room nodes. My speakers were off a just a couple inches from that diagonal line to begin with... Far better now! Far better. Though not only do they need to be right on that line... but 'EXACTLY' the same distnace from the rear wall... remember, '..time and phase, coherent." My room is only 13.75 ft. wide. (the units are 7.5 ft. apart with no toe in)... and could possibly move further into the room but as they do they get closer together... so only a few more inches perhaps... The above sure helped me and agian I was only about 2 inches away or so... It all got more coherent, and more resolution in the bass, gaining quality to the notes with more discernability... way more differeniation and way less boomyness and one note sounds with smoe bass notes almost non existent... It ain't the 'fix all' but it is/was immense ehlp.. and I haven't loaded them with shot or dacron either. Just spiked with oversized spikes, and home made biwires/shotgun cables. replacing the spkr. cables is probably next on the list... so what was said about the Kimber's & AQ is good to know... Good luck.