Hi O-10 - your post today about subjectivity and objectivity was interesting. Most of it is fine as far as it goes. However, as Frogman has pointed out several times, there is much more about music that is indeed objective than you think. It requires knowledge of music to be able to determine which is which. And since you state that you have no knowledge of music and do not want any, doesn't this mean that your point of view is neither objective or subjective, but simply un-informed? Even subjectivity assumes knowledge of the subject. You seem to imply that your un-informed point of view has equal value to an informed one. While this may be true for you, I don't see how it could possibly be true for anyone else, and that is the problem. You also imply that this situation is unchangeable, which it is clearly not. Again, that is up to you. Please do not take this personally - I am genuinely interested in trying to bridge the disconnect here. I am not at all implying that you are not capable of understanding - I know you are if you wanted to. But if you really don't want to, then it seems to me that you really shouldn't complain about your "detractors" who insist on correcting false statements/perceptions.