Jazz for aficionados

I think one of the biggest issues in these disputes, and one which applies to the music itself in a big way, is the absence of nuance. Iow, we tend to deal with descriptions of likes, dislikes, players’ styles, etc. in very wide gradations; instead of recognizing that there can be far more levels between simple "like" and "dislike", "good" and "bad"; and, certainly between "very good" and "one of the best". Example: I don’t recall anyone "trashing" the Bey Sisters. Not particularly like, yes; but, "trash"?

Excellent advise to not take it personally.

Frogman, of course that I dont mind or take pesonally some of your critics or opinions about some players or their playing.
In fact, I am always intersted to learn something new, I know that that is a hard task without proper musical education, but still I can try.
As for the trumpet player, it is Dave Burns, and yes, we have mentioned him before, more or less with same words, yours I mean.

No comments for Clifford Browns clips? Everybody are familiar with those albums?

"Some of his best recordings remained unissued until the Eighties, and were then only available in Japan in limited quanties."


Frogman stated;
Grant Green's "His Majesty King Funk" was, in fact, released the same year that it was recorded (on lp of course). This was the same time period that George Benson was making quite a name for himself with Brother Jack McDuff and his own "Cookbook". It's a good record and as Alex points out has some catchy tunes.

The "Verve" cd release date had nothing to do with the "Blue Note" records. We were discussing the "release" of the "Blue Note" records, and because I quoted notes on that CD you say it's related. You stated the "Verve" CD was released in the same year; what's the connection?

Acmans post
The Grant Green Mosaic box set with Sonny Clark is one of the releases that mostly came from Japan. It is highly regarded.


frogman
2,650 posts
04-17-2016 9:03am
Well said, Acman3.

If you agree with Acman, are you saying Grant Greens Mosaic box set should be well regarded, Frogman? or what are you saying? What did you mean when you made that statement?


Qdrone, could you name the stuff to avoid, I would like to buy it.
qdrone
799 posts
01-23-2011 1:29pm
Anything that says never released or only released in Japan. Or in box sets where you have newly discovered tracks (Mosiac has one or two sets with Green) I actualy posted for everyone to understand the times these recordings were made,heroin was problem among many musicians,I'm sorry that your so full of yourself that you thought i was just responding to you.

Since "Qdrone's post was directed at me personally, do you agree with his post? It's very difficult to follow where you're coming from, and what it is you're trying to say.

Could you compact and simplify; meaning say where you're coming from in fewer words.


Enjoy the music.

Grant Green would have been better off if he had never left St. Louis. Blue Note came to St. Louis looking for Grant Green, he didn't go looking for Blue Note. He would not have become famous, but he might still be alive, and as well off as other St. Louis musicians. St. Louis takes care of it's musicians; but when they're destitute after being rich and famous, that's the last thing they want out. (once you become famous, people think you're rich)

I can think of a musician who was rich and famous, but became destitute and in bad health. Naturally they wanted to keep it a secret. When word got out, not only did they get help with medical bills, but attorneys helped them recoup millions in royalities.

All the St. Louis musicians who I know personally, live on the same economic scale as someone with a good job; they have a nice home and automobile, plus live good.

When word gets out about a musician being destitute, (right now I'm thinking of local musicians) the first thing that happens is a "benefit"; any famous musicians have to show up, and perform for free. Rich patrons can't just donate $20; they have to contribute real money, because their names will be on a plaque with how much they donated. Every musician in St. Louis has to show up. If they're too old to perform, at least they were seen. For fans like me, it's the place to see, and be seen by people you haven't seen for ages. Everybody has a good time, and we all benefit.

I'm glad Chuck Berry is still alive, he was always instrumental in benefits. Like I said in the beginning, no musician whose been famous wants anyone to know when they get destitute; a big mistake in St. Louis.



Enjoy the music.

Today's Listen:

Horace Silver -- IN PURSUIT of THE 27th MAN

Three of the tracks with the Brecker Brothers and four with David Friedman on vibes, instead of the Brecker bros.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NMNHBy9NYE   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed04dStgKhY 

This is one of those, not underrated, but seldom mentioned gems.  Check out the interplay between the piano and vibes on 27th man.  Wow.  I just had to burst out laughing.  Great stuff.

I think those Brecker Brothers are the real deal.

Where did the title of the CD come from?

Notes:  Someone running after someone or something.  The 27th man is representative of the improved advance man of the future that we are all striving to become.  If one has a faint knowledge of numerology, one can derive added meaning from the numbers in this title.

Grand PooBahs, and Those with a 'faint' knowledge, please weigh-in and enlighten the great unwashed.

Cheers