Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10
Today's Listen:

Horace Silver -- DOIN' THE THING

I guess we could say that 'Filthy McNasty' was the 'hit' tune, but I like 'The Gringo' also, which Silver says is in the 'Latin Vein'. :)

Blue Mitchell on Trumpet.  Junior Cook on Tenor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WBgoXsKZX0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTYtZa2XrDQ

Cheers

Let me repeat, "I still appreciate your musical wisdom, for those like Rok, and Acman who benefit from it".

This is what Rok posted right after that;

O-10:

We all know that you do not want to know anything about anything. What we don't know is why you are so ADAMANT about telling us this at every opportunity.

We get it.



I would be a triple MOWRON, if allowed anyone to tell me what I should learn! Especially after I invited their words of wisdom for others who have this desire to learn, not once, but twice.



Enjoy the music.

Hi Orpheus - 

First, you seem convinced that I was the person Frogman referred to in that post - I am not at all sure.  There could be a few others.  

Second - you had asked me to respond to the video you posted of Andre Previn performing and conducting  a Mozart Concerto with the Royal Philharmonic.  This is what I belatedly responded to last night.  I had no idea you wanted a comment from me on the other thing, which I did not listen to.  I can go back and find it if you like.  

As I said before - your "controversy" is in your head alone.  I take everyone else's silence on the subject so far to mean that they probably agree.  

I did not offer to teach you anything (in my last couple of posts, anyway, and I certainly will not in future, either).  My intention was merely to try to explain why musicians and music lovers who have educated themselves about music do not and cannot take some of what you say about music seriously (because you proudly proclaim your ignorance of it).  I do not think this is unreasonable - I am truly sorry if this offends you, but this is your communication problem - not mine.  I personally don't think you can have a real  complaint when people don't understand a point you are trying to make about music because it doesn't make any real sense, but hey, that's your right if you want to be that way, and you refuse to learn some musical sense.  Everyone who does have musical sense sees right through it.  As I said before, I will speak up for the sake of others who read these forums when something is posted here about music that is clearly wrong.   And that's my right.  I am not going to argue with you about it - that is impossible, for reasons which have already been said.   If you really want me to exit the thread again, however, I will.  

And by the way, I did post here about my favorite jazz albums, years ago when you first started this thread.  I could easily add to that post if you wish, but I don't see much  point if  you are just going to lash out like you have been lately.  Enjoy the music.  

Learsfool, I've got nothing else to do, I can play this game all night long.

Since I don't have any expertise in classical music, your evaluation of Andre Previn's classical music stands, and I couldn't care less.

The controversy involves "Like Young" by Andre Previn. Frogman said it sounds like elevator music; do you agree?


04-19-2016 6:37am
O-10, remember your comment about my supposed feeling that everything you say has to do with me? Now, remember that word "projection"? Now, again, remember that word that you used, with unfounded indignation, describing what you thought I (and another esteemed aficionado who I will not include in this bs) felt that you were? You know.....that word that rhymes with "boron"? I am saddened to have to report that I believe you were correct in using that word.

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Frogman is saying that you "The esteemed aficionado" agreed with him in regard to that word that Rhymes with "boron"; is this true? That came about because he said I thought "Like Young" by Previn was classical music.

Learsfool, you nor Frogman read my posts very well; the controversy is about "Like Young" by Andre Previn, is that clear?

This is what you posted;


  You have repeatedly proclaimed your ignorance of music and that you are proud of it and will never study it. You simply do not speak the language, and don't care. This is precisely why this is not a "controversy" to anyone but you, and also why there can be no actual debate or even meaningful dialogue with you about music. You can't really tell us WHY you like one performance over another, or one version of a tune better than another, because you don't speak the language. But you do get mad if someone says they don't agree with you, especially when they have good reasons. All I can say is that this is the price you must pay for maintaining your ignorance.
frogman.

How many times do I have to repeat; "I have no interest in learning music". Why is that a problem with you and Frogman?

Now you are telling me that's the price I pay for maintaining my ignorence. I say that's the price you pay for not being able to read.

The controversy was about "Like Young" by Andre Previn, would you care to evaluate that?



Frogman and Learsfool, this post proves you both are totally "Out to Lunch"; since that's a New York phrase, I know you both know what it means.


From Wikipedia,


André Previn (2012)
André George Previn, KBE (/ˈprɛvɪn/; born Andreas Ludwig Priwin; April 6, 1929)[1] is a German-American pianist, conductor, and composer. He is considered one of the most versatile musicians in the world and is the winner of four Academy Awards for his film work and ten Grammy Awards for his recordings (and one more for his Lifetime Achievement).

Learsfool, how many awards have you and Frogman won between the two of you?




Previn made dozens of jazz recordings as leader and sideman, primarily during two periods of his career: from 1945 to 1967, and then again from 1989 to 2001, with just a handful of recordings in between and afterward (while he focused his career on conducting/recording classical music, and later on composing contemporary art music). Previn also did several crossover recordings with classical singers like Eileen Farrell, Leontyne Price or Kiri Te Kanawa, too, as well as several Easy-Listening records with piano and orchestra in the 1960s.

Like Oscar Peterson, whom Previn admires a lot,[8] and Bill Evans – or more recently Keith Jarrett, Brad Mehldau or Esbjörn Svensson – Previn has worked a lot as a trio pianist (usually with bass and drums). Following his performance on Shelly Manne's huge hit record Modern Jazz Performances of Songs from My Fair Lady in 1956, Previn released several albums of jazz interpretations of songs from broadway musicals as well as several solo piano recordings focussed on the songbooks of popular composers (André Previn Plays Songs by Vernon Duke, 1958; André Previn Plays That Old Black Magic, Come Rain or Come Shine, Stormy Weather, Over the Rainbow and Other Wonderful Songs by Harold Arlen, 1960; Ballads. Solo Jazz Standards, 1996; Alone: Ballads for Solo Piano, 2007), the late recording of songs by Harold Arlen with singer Sylvia McNair and bass player David Finck (Come Rain or Shine. The Harold Arlen Songbook, 1996), and his TV shows with Oscar Peterson (1974)[9] – which Marlon Brando simply called "one of the greatest hours I ever saw on television"[10] – and Ella Fitzgerald (1979)[11] respectively.

Jazz critic and historian Ted Gioia wrote in his book about West Coast Jazz, the scene to which Previn belonged:

[His] projects varied greatly in terms of quality and jazz content, but at his best Previn could be a persuasive, moving jazz musician. [...] Despite his deep roots in symphonic music, Previn largely steered clear of Third Stream classicism in his jazz work, aiming more at an earthy, hard-swinging piano style at times reminiscent of Horace Silver. Long before his eventual retreat from his jazz work, Previn had become something of a popularizer of jazz rather than a serious practitioner of the music. At his best, however, his music reflected a strong indigenous feel for the jazz idiom.[12]

And Dizzy Gillespie has stated,

He has the flow, you know, which a lot of guys don't have and won't ever get. Yeah. I heard him play and I knew. A lot of guys, they have the technique, the harmonic sense. They've got the perfect coordination. And, yeah, all that's necessary. But you need something more, you know? Even if you only make an oooooooo, like that, you got to have the flow.[13]

Jazz Recordings as leader/co-leader[edit]
Collaboration (RCA Victor, 1955) - with Shorty Rogers
Double Play! (Contemporary, 1957) with Russ Freeman
Pal Joey (Contemporary, 1957)
Gigi (Contemporary, 1958)
André Previn Plays Songs by Vernon Duke (Contemporary, 1958)
King Size! (Contemporary, 1959)
André Previn Plays Songs by Jerome Kern (1959)
West Side Story (Contemporary, 1959)
The Subterraneans (Soundtrack) (MGM, 1960)
Like Previn! (Contemporary, 1960)
André Previn Plays Songs by Harold Arlen (Contemporary, 1960)
André Previn and J.J. Johnson Play Mack the Knife and Bilboa Song and Other Music from the Threepenny Opera, Happy End, Mahagonny (1961, with J.J. Johnson, Red Mitchell and Frank Capp)
Duet (1962, with Doris Day, Red Mitchell and Frank Capp)
A Different Kind of Blues (1980, with Itzhak Perlman, Jim Hall, Red Mitchell and Shelly Manne)
Nice Work if You Can Get It (1983, with Ella Fitzgerald and Niels-Henning Ørsted Pedersen)
After Hours (1989, with Joe Pass and Ray Brown)
Uptown (1990, with Mundell Lowe and Ray Brown)
Old Friends (1992, with Mundell Lowe and Ray Brown)
Kiri Sidetracks: The Jazz Album (1992, with Kiri Te Kanawa, Mundell Lowe and Ray Brown)
André Previn and Friends Play Show Boat (1995, with Mundell Lowe, Ray Brown and Grady Tate)
Sure Thing. The Jerome Kern Songbook (1996, with Sylvia McNair and David Finck)
Ballads. Solo Jazz Standards (1996)
Come Rain or Shine. The Harold Arlen Songbook (1996, with Sylvia McNair and David Finck)
Jazz at the Musikverein (1997, with Mundell Lowe and Ray Brown)
We Got Rhythm. A Gershwin Songbook (1998, with David Finck)
We Got It Good and That Ain't Bad. An Ellington Songbook (1999, with David Finck)
Live at the Jazz Standard (2001, with David Finck)
Alone: Ballads for Solo Piano (2007)
Jazz Recordings as sideman/group member[edit]
With Benny Carter

Jazz Giant (Contemporary, 1958)
With Helen Humes

Tain't Nobody's Biz-ness if I Do (Contemporary, 1959)
Songs I Like to Sing! (Contemporary, 1960)
With Barney Kessel

Music to Listen to Barney Kessel By (Contemporary, 1956)
Carmen (Contemporary, 1959)
With Shelly Manne

Shelly Manne & His Friends (Contemporary, 1956)
My Fair Lady (Contemporary, 1956)
Li'l Abner (Contemporary, 1957)
Bells Are Ringing (Contemporary, 1959)
With Lyle Murphy

12-Tone Compositions and Arrangements by Lyle Murphy (Contemporary, 1955)
Classical music (as conductor and/or pianist – selection)[edit]
Chamber music / solo piano music[edit]
As in Jazz, Previn, the classical pianist, worked most of the time as a trio pianist (with violin and cello) in classical chamber music. Accordingly, most of his recordings as pianist are in this genre.