I'm listening to John Coltrane and my present references are to "Kulu Se Mama". Juno Lewis is doing African vocals, and percussion; it's on the Impulse label. Although this is pretty far out, it's within musical bounds (according to me, and my definition of "musical bounds") This was recorded October 14, 1965, two years after I saw him live. I make this point in time to establish a couple of things; although I heard what can best be described as "free jazz" after he played "My Favorite Things" as far as it would go, so far he has not recorded this "free jazz". "Kulu Se Mama" gets 4 stars, I like it. There's another point I want to make; Elvin Jones and McCoy Tyner are with him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryMLO7Ed4d8
Now we go into a time when Elvin Jones and McCoy Tyner are not with John Coltrane. In 63, when Trane went so far out, that McCoy Tyner looked at Elvin Jones, who was already looking at him, as if to say "What now"? and McCoy Tyner looked down at his piano, as if to say "just follow me". What I'm doing right now is duplicating that moment in time without McCoy Tyner and Elvin Jones. I'm also saying something that's never been said, great musicians of the stature of McCoy Tyner and Elvin Jones don't like to be left in mid air in front of a live audience, and evidently what I saw in 63 was happening quite often; they looked silly for an instant, and the audience was looking at them with a quizzical look because they were not with Trane musically.
This is from "Infinity"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3jaJDr8zKA
Frogman, can you be musically and politically correct? The reason I make this statement is because you always choose to be "politically" correct.
What is your assessment when comparing "free jazz" to what I consider is within musical bounds.
This is definitely out of what I consider "Musical bounds", what say you frogman?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjDrkTmqxQk
Enjoy the music