Jazz for aficionados

As with some poster(s)’ knee jerk reaction to new jazz, usually followed by silliness and ugliness, there is often more energy spent (posts) on objecting to, qualifying and bickering about dialog concerning the "making of music" than actually "listening to and evaluating Jazz music". I would venture a guess that only about 10% (at most) of the music clips posted here have been "new" Jazz. However, more times than not there is some ugly derision directed at the new music clips and/or the person posting them. This, while also and often ignoring the jazz-jazz clips. Why? Doesn’t this strike the objectors as a little bizarre and counterproductive? My point, and humble and friendly suggestion, is that since by now we all know where each of us stands (and it’s not going to change), with all due respect, proclamations like the above are not only unnecessary, but serve no purpose other than to disrupt the serenity. I would, however, like to ask the question: Since the thread is, as you suggest, about "evaluating Jazz music", kindly explain how a listener for who the "making of music" is inextricably intertwined with the "evaluation of music" (and it is for many many listeners; probably most, to some degree) is supposed to do that? Please consider yourself NOT included 😊

**** but do you think any of the "movie makers" want to learn anything about how to make music? ****

You better believe it! There are many aspects of the music making process that movie makers concern themselves with; starting with the choice of composers for the score based on understanding that only certain composers use certain instrumental (and vocal) textures and colors in such a way that serves the movie maker/producer’s vision of the role of the music in the overall product.

This is much to do about nothing; the teacher can continue teaching, and the students can continue learning.

O-10, I was not aware that there was a "teacher" and "students" here, but simply sharing of ideas and thoughts; much more positive and less contentious way to look at it if you ask me.  Serenity is good thing.  Great clip with Toots; love that record.  And if that record doesn't shatter preconceived notions about certain things,  I don't know what does.  Who woulda thunk that the harmonica could sound so elegant and masterful?  Great stuff.

Glad you liked it; that was almost a continuation of your Bill Evans link. He was like a chameleon in regard to his ability to change colors to suit the situation.

I just happened to have a funny thought about Miles and Monk. I have a Miles record where I always identify the pianist as Monk, when it's actually Horace Silver. I also have another Miles record where I make the same mistake with another pianist.

The funny part about this thing is that it's due to the fact that Miles was having some kind of rift with Monk, so instead of getting Monk to play the part, he gets whoever the pianist is to play like Monk. "Say Horace, do that plink plink plunk, Monk thing right here."


Enjoy the players.

Glad you liked it; that was almost a continuation of your Bill Evans link. He was like a chameleon in regard to his ability to change colors to suit the situation.

I just happened to have a funny thought about Miles and Monk. I have a Miles record where I always identify the pianist as Monk, when it's actually Horace Silver. I also have another Miles record where I make the same mistake with another pianist.

The funny part about this thing is that it's due to the fact that Miles was having some kind of rift with Monk, so instead of getting Monk to play the part, he gets whoever the pianist is to play like Monk. "Say Horace, do that plink plink plunk, Monk thing right here."


Enjoy the players.