Class D = Trash?


So, I'm on my second class D amp. The first one, a Teac AI-301DA which claimed to use an ICE module, was unlistenable trash. I burned it in for a few weeks, it just couldn't perform, so I sent it back. Following that, I tried the new Emotiva A-300 (class A/B). It was significantly better, but lacking in too many ways for my tastes. So I changed gears, got an 845 SET from China -- and it was an immediate and massive improvement.

So, before I went further down the SET road, I wanted to try a better class D product using a modern class D module. I settled on the D-Sonic M3-800S with the Pascal module and custom input stage. I read from reviews that these things like to have big cables, so I picked up an eBay 8 gauge power cable (Maze Audio, el-cheapo Oyaide copy plugs, braided 4-wire cable) to go along with it.

Mid-range GONE.
Soundstage depth CRUSHED.
Euphonics DISAPPEARED.

Yes, resolution went up. Driver control went up, allowing me to play compressed rock/pop and orchestra with the speakers being able to render it all. But enjoyment in the sound is basically gone. Using my best power cable (LessLoss Original) improved performance, but didn't fundamentally change the amp's nature. I ran back to my headphones (Focal Utopias) to detox my ear canals.

So, how long does a class D need to burn-in? I want to give it a fair shake before writing the technology off forever. 
madavid0
Watch blanket statements. I have listened to about a half dozen Class D using the two most common modules and they ranged from poor to not half bad, but not something for the long haul. I settled on Nuforce/Nuprime which uses a very different style (proprietary to them) of module and their newer designs are highly satisfying, for example the Nuforce Reference 20 monoblocks. My impression is that other companies also have made significant progress in the last year with Class D
I've had my Rogue Sphinx class D (hybrid integrated) for 1.5 years and am quite pleased with it.  In the past I've owned McIntosh, Dynaco, NAD. Not trash, IMO.

madavid0, you can expect at least 600 hours to 1200 hours of break-in before a class D amp reaches peak performance.


Basically, owning a class D amp requires a modicum of patience... These are not instant gratifiers.


Like with any other classes of amps, some class D amps are extremely good, and other ones, hummmm.... Should best be marketed through Home Depot for chasing squirrels and other varmints from attics.


But no, I am not faintly implying that D-Sonic amps are poor... On the contrary. Most of them are based on Pascal power conversion modules, which are extremely good. Amps based on Pascal M-Pro2 and X-Pro2 or X-Pro1 are likely very good performers, if one is patient enough to break them in.


Lastly, feeding any amp with an arbitrary PC whose only claim to fame is its heavy gage may not be the most effective strategy for getting best results from such device, no metter its class of operation.


Saluti, Guido

 

Mad David

Before I respond to your question: what source material do you have?

Do you listen to the crap that is CD?
Have you at least partially upgraded to SACD?
I doubt you know what DSD downloads refer to.

There is no hope in hell you've listened to vinyl in a long time, if ever.

You are the reason many of us have given up on this forum/website, idiots, all of you!!!!