Clearaudio Innovation Wood or shoot for the stars Techdas AF 3


      I currently have a VPI Prime turntable with a Benz Micro LPS-MR cartridge and a Simuaudio 610 lp phono stage. I was about to upgrade to Clearaudio Innovation Wood with probably a Kuzma 4-point arm when my wife says that this better be my last turntable upgrade and she said I could spend more for as long as I never ( never probably means 5 years, I hope ) upgrade my turntable again. This got me looking at the new Techdas AF5 ( just launched at the recent Tokyo Audio Show). However my dealer prefers  of course the more expensive AF 3  with a Graham arm. Although, he can also do  Kuzma except I have to wait for an armboard as most Techdas armboards are already pre-drilled to fit Graham's. I have heard the Clearaudio extensively in a friends place with the Universal arm and Mysonic Lab Signature Gold and its sounds great but I have never heard the AF3's. Though I have heard the AF1 in another friends system which costs  probably 20 times mine and it sounded beyond this world ( at least for me). Hoping that the trickle down technology on the AF3 will get me 80%-90% of the sound of the AF1. 

    Now, the question is which table to get? Assuming home audition is not possible ( but of course I will try ). The cost of the AF3 will leave me broke ( to do anymore upgrades to my system) but hopefully happy and satisfied.  The technology on this thing alone makes me want to buy it. The awesome reviews help too. The Clearaudio also has good reviews. I've heard it, it also sounds wonderful and quite a few people here own them and  it leaves me wiggle room too to upgrade some other stuff ( ARC REf phono 3 perhaps or  an additional cartridge for different flavor ) . Though I noticed that owner's keep them for a few years ( from my back reading of threads ) but still upgrade to much higher priced turntables ( hence my hesitation ) as this is  sort of the "last table for life" kind of situation. 

     This a once in a lifetime deal ( because of the wife's blessing and the amount involved ). I don't think she'll give me another chance like this one .  Hoping your thoughts/inputs can point me to the right direction. Thanx.
      
PS. Please do not suggest other brands, due to availability and dealer relationships these are already my finalists, so let's limit the discussion to the 2 above mentioned turntables.
attymbb
AF-3 table with Thales Simplicity II tonearm.      

You will need to spend a LOT more $$ to beat this combo.
 I wouldn't go for either so I can't be much help in the table department. I would however recommend changing the cartridge And the phonostage. I find the Benz to be a bit fat and have never loved the audio research stuff.  Just my opinion and what my ears have told me when I have heard those items. 
attymbb,

I have been pondering my Last TT for a year +.

TechDas III and Graham arm were high on my list. Heard it at Axpona 2016. 

Even though you confined this discussion to (2) TT ; I hope you don't mind if I expand.

First; Nice System. Mine is posted with a few updates that will come soon.

I am a vinyl guy; 3000 LPs, 83 CDs.

Almost ready to pull the trigger on a Technics 1200G, modded with a Tri-Planar 12" arm with tonearm cable terminated with XLR connections. Still pondering cartridges.

IMHO, this TT can be a game changer.

Just some thoughts.......

- Technics DD is rock solid speed. Perhaps equal or better than all others.

- Tri-Planar ranks with with any of the top arms.

Cartridge - Stll pondering. Your choice.

- Upgrade phonostage 
Tubes Rule here.

- I will stay with a gimbal arm.

You will save $$$ and have a Top TT rig. Again, IMHO.

Best Wishes on your Journey 



If this is going to be your last upgrade for quite .a while, upgrading the phono stage would definitely have to be in the mix for me. A better phono stage will have a huge impact on the sound.