A battle between two turntable generations. Which one is the winner?


Being an electronic and acoustic enginner, I've worked for well renowned Companies in Germany, that led me to listen to all kind of analog equipments, from turntables to tonearms, cartridges... I love the analog sound!

While I've had the EMT 927 and 930, the SP-10 of all versions, VPI's, Thorens, etc... I ended with my reliable Garrard 301, that I bought brand new in London, England. Believe me, a well engineered plinth for the Garrard 301 transforms the 301 in an outstanding turntable.

Time passed and my beloved Fidelity Research FR-66 SS tonearm was substitued for the magnificent (and a bargain!) Trans-Fi Terminator (best linear tracking tonearm I've experienced). When I felt that it was time to change the Garrard 301 for a new one and based on the positive reviews, I emailed Bruce McDougall, the designer and owner of ANVIL turntables to quote a turntable that could suit the Terminator Tonearm. (Linear tracking tonearms need a VERY stable plinth to perform at best) because I would like to compare the Garrard with a contemporary turntable without breaking the bank.

The ANVIL comes complete (you can name it "turbinated") with adjustable motor board (adjustable string tension), adjustable arm board, the new bearing model and the proprietary magnetic levitated footers.

To make real comparisions, the only thing that I changed was the Garrard 301. Victor Patacchiola's tonearm (Terminator), Audio-Technica AT50ANV Limited Edition (the most natural cartridge ever!) and Steven Huang's Audio Sensibility Impact SE phono cable remained the same.

The main LP that I used (and accostumed with it, too) is a fabulous recording of Switzerland's vocal jazz "BRIGITTE BADER MEETS JOHNNY GRIFFIN", very very rare limited edition by ARS of Germany. Many japanese audiophiles that I know use this recording to "tune" their systems. If you come across this LP, please buy it! This is an all analogue recording made with purist techniques and direct recorded on a Studer B67 recorder.

Although the Garrard + Terminator show their positive potential on track 3, "HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN GOING ON", (oh) boy!... the Anvil + Terminator is in a different league: it transformed the already perfect soundstage in an outstanding presentation. All the authoritative bass present in the Garrard (probably due to idler wheel drive??) stay there, but with tonal nuances never heard before. The Anvil is unbelievable quiet with perfect speed stability . Certainly the new bearing and a massive platter contributes for a clarity on complex passages that I have not ever experienced before. At $3700.00 (the price that I paid for the Anvil "turbinated with accessories") is a bargain if compared with some turntables that uses plastic, MDF (oh my God!) and other "fancy" materials. The Anvil is of all metal construction and is HEAVY (about 60lbs) and certainly this contributes for the supreme results.

I'm not affiliate with ANY companies mentioned in this review. I'm just a passionate audiophile searching for the best and this combination made my ears smiling!

Would you like to share with me, fellow Audiogon members, your impressions and thoughs about your phono system? Cheers!, Jose.
ultima700
What is "perfect speed stability"?  It's the holy grail for turntables, because that is first of all what a turntable needs to do, and none that I know of succeed.  That said, I am familiar with the Anvil, and if I were to be at all interested in a belt-drive type, that one seems to give a lot of bang for the buck.  Good choice.  Other than that, I am not sure what this thread is about.  Did you want various responders to promote their particular vinyl set-up, uber alles?
lewm, thanks for sending the message. "Perfect speed stability" means PERFECT SPEED STABILITY or the ability of a particular turntable to rotate at 331/3 rpm, to play a LP, without any deviation. Think of a bearing that has, by far, the lowest friction of any turntable made, from my experience. Mine took 7 minutes to stop from 331/3 to zero. Add a very special PS that has the ability to "drive" the normal 115 v synchronous motor at a half voltage, about 60V, to reduce motor stress + the ability to provide each field coil of the synchronous motor with its individual power supply, with one shifted the necessary 90 degrees, and you have a "perfect speed stability", checked with my laboratory instruments. For other information please ask the manufacturer. We (for the people living in the US and many other Countries and me, that live in Brazil) live in a healthy democracy.If you are not comfortable with this thread, please "unfollow" it. I'm not here asking Audiogon members to promote anything, just to share, if they want, your toughs and feelings about their analog systems.
ultima

"perfect speed stability", checked with my laboratory instruments.

The Anvil does seem to buck the trend in the belt drive's
found today.

Would care to share your method of confirming
 its "perfect speed stability"




ultima

"perfect speed stability", checked with my laboratory instruments.


The Anvil does seem to buck the trend in the belt drive's
found today.

Would care to share your method of confirming
 its "perfect speed stability"




Let me chime in here before things go sideways.  Ultima 700 asked if I would mind a consumer review, which of course I agreed to.  I had know idea what the result would be until it was published.  Furthermore, I can only produce these in limited numbers so I am never a threat to my competitors, nor is this a get rich endeaver for me.  As much as possible I try to be an honest broker for my ideas.  I was quite nervous shipping the table to 700.  I was aware of his extensive experience and any flaws on my end would potentially be magnified through his lens.  Having said that I designed my tuntable to have the punch of an idler, the stability of a direct drive and the quiet of a belt drive.  Lewm, as far as stability is concerned it is not unusual for my decks to measure .01 W&F, bettering some direct drives.  This figure was confirmed by Michael Fremer on one of the worst turntables I ever produced.  Frankly, I am much less concerned about W&F as I used to be as there are several other paremeters that influence sound to a FAR greater degree.  Regarding value there is nothing that can compete with my turntable at anywhere near the price.  I have inserted my table into systems with 15K decks and handily outpointed them  It isnt unusual for the Anvil to be superior in every way from deep bass though treble.  If you look at my materials and engineering choices, not to mention ease of set up ( for example on the fly adjustments to go between different null point geometries in seconds ) you can see that "on paper" it is a rather unique design.  There is some secret sauce in the design too. I have pretty much flown under the radar for about 8 years but figured this might be an opportunity to tell enthusiasts what I REALLY think, LOL.

Regards,

Bruce