Absolute top tier DAC for standard res Redbook CD


Hi All.

Putting together a reference level system.
My Source is predominantly standard 16/44 played from a MacMini using iTunes and Amarra. Some of my music is purchased from iTunes and the rest is ripped from standard CD's.
For my tastes in music, my high def catalogues are still limited; so Redbook 16/44 will be my primary source for quite some time.

I'm not spending DCS or MSB money. But $15-20k retail is not out of the question.

Upsampling vs non-upsampling?
USB input vs SPDIF?

All opinions welcome.

And I know I need to hear them, but getting these ultra $$$ DAC's into your house for an audition ain't easy.

Looking for musical, emotional, engaging, accurate , with great dimension. Not looking for analytical and sterile.
mattnshilp
So, both techniques can have good S/N (Delta-Sigmas have improved a LOT since the 90’s), but the issue with Delta-Sigma is the filtering. The issue with R2R is this non-linearity. This is what I had said all along. Eliminate the bad digital filtering and you have something really fine with Delta-Sigma. This is what my ears tell me.

@audioengr 

Thank you for your response regarding my question about the filter, and pointing out that you remove or replace it in your design, and how that differs from "apodizing". It would seem Benchmark also replaces the filter, given what shadorne states about how the ESS chip filter is overridden. Okay. Fair enough.

Regarding the non-linearity, this is corroborated by Benchmark. According to Benchmark (this was forwarded to me by Rory Rall at the time I was in the market for a DAC and Benchmark was on the radar):

"The distortion in a ladder DAC is caused by resistor mismatch. This resistor mismatch causes linearity errors. The step sizes between adjacent digital codes are inconsistent. Even if the resistors are precision trimmed, they drift with temperature. This drift is not just a function of the ambient temperature. The change in resistance can even be induced by the instantaneous heating caused by the audio signal."

So it would seem (to me anyway) that the non-linearity issue you are referring to is a function of *resistor temperature*, which lends credence to why Schiit recommends leaving the unit on 24/7.

That said, I can tell you that even from a cold (off 12hrs) start, and while playing and the unit is warming, my Yggy sounds better than both of my delta-sigma, which have "digititis" by comparison.

This is what my ears tell me.

gdhal - what source is driving your Yggy?

What are your Delta-Sigma DAC's?


Steve N.

Empirical Audio

gdhal - what source is driving your Yggy?

What are your Delta-Sigma DAC’s?

Musical Fidelity M6si > Belden 5T00UP > Golden Ear Triton Reference (pair)

Schiit Yggdrasil > Canare L-4E6S XLR > M6si

Oppo UDP-205 > Belden 1694A (Canare RCAPs) > Yggdrasil

Emotiva ERC-3 > Belden 1800F AES/EBU > Yggdrasil

Samsung SMT-C5320 > Mitsubishi Eska POF > Yggdrasil

EDIT:

Steve, the Oppo and Emotiva (both delta sigma) which now act as transport were my primary source before I obtained the Yggy. I did perform extensive A/B testing, and that saga was documented here: https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/new-yggdrasil-first-and-second-impressions
Both DACs were auditioned in only one system, my own. The same amp, speaker, preamp, and cables.
Matt you have not heard the best in digital if using usb. I believe your dac uses usb. When you hear digital with Ethernet there is no comparison. The dac at least the Bricasti takes on an analog quality that has to be heard to be believed.