Interesting comments. The term "rock & roll" became common in the mid-'50s. Many attribute it to Alan Freed, a radio DJ in Cleveland (ever wonder why the Rock and Roll Museum was located there?). He used it in reference to the combination of blues, country, and rhythm and blues he played on air. Along the way over time it became abbreviated as R&R in print and simply "rock" when mentioned verbally as well as in print media. The term rockers referred to both musicians and youngsters who favored that music.
My point in breaking down rok's comments was to dispute that list of elements as the cause for bad music. I consider the music of the '60s (rock) to have evolved from society, not the other way around. A reflection as it were. Now if rok has strong dislike for music he/she labels rock, fine. Personal opinions should always be welcomed. But I take issue with those elements as being a cause for bad music. Like all musical categories, I would hope we can agree there are both good and bad examples.
As I said, it is personal. Reviewing mary jo's list, for me it offers a good selection of rock. The main exception was the second Deep Purple song. That borders on heavy metal which is not my favorite. In fact for me heavy metal and acid rock are two sub-categories which could fit rok's list of elements. But someone else might choose to defend those. ;^)
Least we forget that o10 began this post with the subject being jazz, I'll offer this example of jazz-influenced rock to tie this together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImxM4Rj5pOQ
My point in breaking down rok's comments was to dispute that list of elements as the cause for bad music. I consider the music of the '60s (rock) to have evolved from society, not the other way around. A reflection as it were. Now if rok has strong dislike for music he/she labels rock, fine. Personal opinions should always be welcomed. But I take issue with those elements as being a cause for bad music. Like all musical categories, I would hope we can agree there are both good and bad examples.
As I said, it is personal. Reviewing mary jo's list, for me it offers a good selection of rock. The main exception was the second Deep Purple song. That borders on heavy metal which is not my favorite. In fact for me heavy metal and acid rock are two sub-categories which could fit rok's list of elements. But someone else might choose to defend those. ;^)
Least we forget that o10 began this post with the subject being jazz, I'll offer this example of jazz-influenced rock to tie this together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImxM4Rj5pOQ