Naim and Elac Adante, Wow

Dude, give a rest to these novels of yours. For Christ’s sake. Tone er down. You sound ridiculous. 

Sorry mofo, 

It is hard to do.-When you are being harrased.

We should all stick to the discusion about the products and nothing else.

Audiotroy seems to ridicule speakers such as the Vandies, Magies, Harbeths and others, for being musical. Interesting to learn, after 40+ years as an audio enthusiast, that fine audio is not about being musical. That’s OK, I’ll stick with musical....Jim

No Jhills we ridicule nothing, if you actually read the posts we said on numerous times the 1C and 2Ce are great value for dollar speakers and we have mentioned that the Harbeths have a great midrange. 

The issue is what you perceive as real? Owned Quad ESL 63 and they were wonderful, super musical loudspeakers, however, once we moved to Wilson WP 3/2 and then 5 the Quads felt like a great snap shot of an altered reality the WP sounded like you were with the band.

I used to do a demo at SBS with the WP and played a hellocopter at loud levels just for a few min part of Pink Floyds the wall, and the WP could make you feel like you were there, the punch and dyamic range and imaging was spectacular. Do you think the Quad could do that, or a set of Maggies? 

There really are two camps people who believe that a system that sounds real is good, which also means that on some recordings the system will not sound good, those who prefer reality, and those who feel that what sounds good and pleasing is right, because it sounds good and is pleasing.

We are not calling you wrong for liking what you like it is a preference.

I like to hear a cymbol sound like a cymbol. As mentioned before go to a Wedding with a live band, that has horns, can you stand to be near the trumpets, or do brass instruments sound harsh?

If your system when played at a loud level has extended frequency response than a similar recording will sound the same, it will be a bit brassy and harsh.

Now if your system has a recessed top end you will be able to listen to that same demo but it won’t be fatiguing.

The issue with a high resolution tweeter, Diamond, Beryilium, Ribbon comes a huge amount of detail the issue is how to make that type of speaker still be listenable by using just the right combination of electronics, cabling and digital.

You can tone down a brigher speaker but nearly impossible to add more brightness and clarity if the system won’t do it.

As mentioned before both of these types of system are preferences.
One is not more right than another, if live music is your reference you may be more drawn to the high res camp, if you listen to chamber music, soft vocal jazz, and crave smoothness and lack of fatique then the warmer more musical camp is the right direction.

This why we sell both brands like ATC soft dome tweeter/paper cone midrange and the Paradigm Persona which use Beryilium drivers.

They both are great and both sound different.

Hope that helps.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ