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Creek or Classe Integrated amp

I'm toying around with down-sizing to an integrated amp from my separates. For reference, I currently have a Nakamichi PA-7 amp (STASIS technology, so basically a Threshold in Nakamichi classic black) and a Threshold FET 2 pre-amp. I recently down-sized my speakers to a used pair of B&W CDM-1s (NOT SE or NT series) and have included a Phase-Tech FL-8 sub unit. I like the speaker combination quite well. Previously had B&W Matrix 804, series 1s which I sold to my neighbor, but I think I made the right move to the CDM-1/sub combo.

Anyway, the USED int amps I'm looking at from afar are a CLASSE CAP-101 and  Creek Destiny. I do see that the Creek was written up to high praise in Stereophile nearly 10 year ago. I believe the Classe is from the similar timeframe.

Does anyone have a broad opinion about Classe and/or Creek that would translate to this comparison? Or specific experience in a similar move they undertook that could recommend one unit over the other?

Thanks. 
bradfordf
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stereo5
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I had the Classe' CAP101 and later traded up to the CAP150.  Both integrateds suffered from cold solder joints and had to shipped back to Montreal many times for repair.  I purchased the integrateds for a second system mainly because I had a model 10 amp and later moved up to a model 15 amp in my main system with never having problems.
bradfordf OP
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I appreciate the breadth of responses on more than just comparing the two brands. Certainly interested to see if there are any other opinions on the two brands--but from what I'm gathering, it sounds like I may not be doing myself any favors swapping out my existing separates just to downsize. Thanks, Posters!
sbrownnw
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Try to find a used Audio Refinement Complete integrated with remote.  I use and love their separates (see system details).
timlub
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If the Audio Refinement is enough power, I would also recommend this integrated... 50 to 8 and 90 to 4. 
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uberwaltz
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Not sure what your budget is as never owned either brands integrated but have had numerous Classe power amps and CD players.
Very solid dependable units with great musicality.
But I am sure there are MANY options to consider bar those pair.
Give us a budget and features required to work of and lets see what else we can come up with.
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