Military grade

@qeoffkait - re...

I take it the cryo was just window dressing.

Unfortnately I have not tried a "non-cryo" version of this wire, so I am unable to make any comparable observations.

Some people on this forum swear by its effectiveness, others condem it as snake oil.

Having built "military grade" products in the past I have experienced first hand the additional efforts put into those products, so the term "Mil-Spec’ for me indicates a much higher quality product - and this led to me to try the wire from Take Five Audio.

Here’s what TFA has to say about their Cryo process
https://www.takefiveaudio.com/contents/89-cryo

The improvements I observed between the varoius wires I have tried on cables of similar length, gauge and cable geometry were easily discernable and considering I had previously used, what I regard as very high quality wire from Van den Hul, Furutech and DH Labs, I found the degree of improvement very surprising.

Was it the insulation, silver plating, the Cryo treatment or the quality of the copper?

Perhaps the level of improvements is an indication of the effectiveness of cryo treating?

The Cryo treatment was an added bonus - but at this time, it is yet to be "proven" (i.e. in my case) by my own observations.

But I do keep an open mind when it comes to all things audio :-)

Regards - Steve






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There are specific MIL STANDARDS for many things for many different reasons. You would have to read the particular standard for whatever cables you have in mind. Undoubtedly some cables are specified to be able to withstand temperature extremes, salt, water, shock, etc. but other cables might not be specified that way, but some other way. Depends on application. Also undoubtedly, military specifications for cables would not (rpt not) address sound quality per se, in audiophile terms.

Here's an example of a military grade connector:
https://www.adorama.com/sw3502.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwpKveBRAwEiwAo4Pqm63e7zGPSMbX6vH8QILdAdXh2JLdD62c0P1jsv3cCub-H2VayQaFUBoCbJoQAvD_BwE
 - same fancy things used in aircraft. I should buy a box and sell them here at a 50x markup.

A United States defense standard, often called a military standard, "MIL-STD", "MIL-SPEC", or (informally) "MilSpecs", is used to help achieve standardization objectives by the U.S. Department of Defense.

All they're looking for is compatibility with existing equipment and structures, something that can be used, reliably, in various scenarios and applications, without failure.

Is it a higher standard than what's out there? It all depends on the application and what you're willing to settle with.

All the best,
Nonoise

Thanks to all of you for your opinions.
Olimpico