What amps should I audition?


I’m thinking ahead (crazy I know)

I want to purchase a high end amplifier next year, maybe an integrated or just a power amp.

I would be looking to spend around 15k max on an integrated, and 8-10k on a power amp separate (funds to acquire a preamp will be got at a later date next year)

What brands and what model from each brand should I try to get a home audition for? 

I should note I would probably be buying new as I can’t imagine I will be able to get a home audition with used gear. I’m open to buying used, but I’d have to get an audition in a system like mine, or actually in my system... I don’t really want to buy anything without auditioning first. On a related note, what is the easiest or best way to get a dealer relationship started, one where he would let me home audition? I’m even willing to pay 100% deposit if it means I can return it no questions ask after the audition period, but the dealers I’ve asked to do this with so far have refused. I always see people on this forum saying they manage to do that. I’m a bit at a loss how they manage to pull that off.

Anyway some more ideas: Bryston amps and Nagra Classic pre? This was the only setup I’ve heard on my speakers and it was quite magical. I really like the Nagra, and the Bryston combo. Used, it could be got within my budget. New.. not so much. I could swap out the Brystons with the matching Nagra amp, maybe. Or even just go for the Nagra Classic Integrated. All within my budget (if used) and with my speakers 96db sensitivity I should be good to go with the Nagra 100wpc rating.

other ideas: mcintosh mc462 or mc275 mk vi. 
Pass Labs XA30.8 or XA60.8 or XA100.8
Acxuphase e-470
Luxman 509X 

Actually that’s all I’ve really come up with so far. I am open to hearing any thoughts, concerns or ideas you may have. I do believe all the above mentioned amps will better my Kinki EX-M1. 

Cabling will be upgraded to Audience before any of this by the way. 
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Reno Hi Fi will allow in home trials of Pass equipment for 10 days.

If your decide to return after trial, then you pay the shipping both ways.

They have good deals on demos, with free shipping, and no tax.
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You've got a speaker that "can" tear your head off with the wrong amp. You want an amp that is extended at both ends, dynamic, detailed and tight. Yet a must is one that is sssssweet!!
And that's going to be the any of the Pass XA's you mentioned, the bigger the better as the standing Class-A will be higher the bigger you go.

Cheers George 
A couple of thoughts:

1.  I have relied on George's insight a number of times and have always been happy that I have.  I put a lot of faith in his experience, particularly the science behind the sound.  He's great at system synergy, which is really important.

2.  Reno Hi-Fi does offer in-home demo's (and it's fully spelled out on their website).  Beyond that, Mark (the owner), is one of the kindest, smartest and most reasonable people I know in the business.  There's a reason Reno is the largest Pass Labs dealer-- I think in the world.

3.  If you decide to skip the Pass recommendation, buy used-- without question.  There are a ton of unrealistic, and a few realistic, sellers right here on Audiogon.  When you find a realistic seller, you need to be ready to go, though.-- right then and there, or what you are looking at will be gone.

4.  I am a big Conrad Johnson, Pass Labs, Eggglestonworks (speakers), fan.  They all make great sounding, reliable and high quality gear.  And, their products are made in the U.S., which I value, as do many others.

Happy searching and listening.
I auditioned 3 of the amp manufacturers you are considering. The current Pass Int, Accuphase 470 and Lux 509X.  All had a unique sound unsurprisingly and I liked them all for different reasons. The Pass for its control over the bottom end, the Luxman for its top end texture. I now own the Accuphase e-470. It was the sweet spot for me. I use it to drive Dyn Contour s5.4 (87db). It has a very musical sound on the slightly warm side.  I am very happy with the e-470.  The e-480 is also about to be released.  Try before you buy. If you can’t get them home, audition with components with similar characteristics to those you intend to pair with in your own environment.  Happy hunting and enjoy the auditioning. 
For your speakers the Pass Labs X350.8 will do quite well. It has considerable power while staying in Class A most of the time.
I suggest pairing a tube amp with it. You will be amazed.