Are Pass Labs amps probably the best ever you can buy ?


I have about 15k to spend on an amp/preamp/integrated amp.

I mostly listen to smooth jazz like Dave Koz, Rippingtons, Brian Culbertson etc.... and loud.

I have yet to hear any amp that comes close to Pass Labs.

Your experiences pls ?
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Didn’t I just mention the SIT amp? Are you trying to make me feel sad? I've read a lot of reviews of that thing but I’m stuck!..I REALLY like my Had amp...it just sounds so good...and the tubes glow...plays plenty LOUD if need be simply since my speakers are (supposedly) 99db...Why? Why? I’ll just have to think of something else to do with four thousand dollars...*sigh*...
Regarding the SIT3, an important point to note is that it has an extremely low gain (for a power amp) of only 11.5 db.  Power amp gains are typically in the mid to high 20s.  Most Pass Labs amps have gains of 26 db for example, although most of the other First Watt amps have gains in the teens. 

Consequently it can be calculated that the SIT3 will require a single-ended input (it does not provide a balanced input) of about 3.2 volts to be driven to its maximum power capability of 18 watts into 8 ohms.  If a digital source having a volume control is used without an active preamp it will almost certainly not be able to provide that much voltage, even with the volume control at max.  And in many and perhaps most cases vinyl or other analog sources won't be able to do so even when used in conjunction with an active preamp.

I considered purchasing a SIT3 recently, but that factor made it a non-starter for my system.  I went with a Pass Labs XA25 instead, which I have been delighted with.

Best regards,
-- Al  
So now I know what to do with my four grand...keep it and use it for more tubes.
Absolutely in the team photo.

One of their greatest strengths is that while they may not be the "perfect" pairing with a given set of speakers, they typically sound damn good with everything.  So, as far as an investment that is nice to know.

I've run my 250.8 with power hogs, and with easy loads.  I've swapped out amps on the same speakers.  Typically, the pass still sounds the best.  

The 250.8 however I believe is one of Nelsons best designs.  I like it better than the 350.8 when I've heard it. 

Just has a really great midrange.