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Still Audio EL84 Integrated Amplifier - my initial impressions

Hi everyone,

I've had the new Still Audio EL84 Integrated Amplifier ($2895USD + shipping) for about a week, and I just thought I'd share my initial impressions.  I learned about the amp from the review in Postive Feedback.  After reading through Still Audio's website I contacted Mark Still.  He was very quick to respond, even though it was a day or two after Christmas.  From that initial email exchange, I've found him to be very attentive and helpful.  

The integrated amp puts out 10wpc using a total of 4 EL84 output tubes.  The unit is tube rectified (EZ34/5AR4) and has two 12AU7s in the input stage.  Mark calls this a "bookshelf amplifier," and it most certainly would fit on a bookshelf due to its dimensions - about 18" in width but only 6.5" in depth.  The front panel has a volume knob and an input selector, and the back panel has the IEC and fuse holder, three RCA inputs, and speaker taps for 4ohm, 8ohm, and 16ohm speakers.  There is a small remote control for the volume.  

The entire unit is very solid and looks like a more expensive component.  The RCA input jacks are excellent the best I've come across.  I find the speaker connectors very easy to tighten by hand.  They seem to stay put as you tighten them.  There is no release of tension when you take your hand off the connector.  The remote works well in providing small volume adjustments.  There is a nice touch that a small red or green light on the amp indicates whether the volume is increasing (red) or decreasing (green) when using the remote.  When adjusting the volume slightly between songs or during a quiet passage, it's very convenient to know whether the amp has gotten the signal from the remote.  

I am still looking for speakers to go with this amp.  As a temporary solution I'm using a pair of Klipsch RP-106Ms, and the sound is very pleasing - smooth and easy to listen to with good dynamics and plenty of volume in my smaller room (13x16ft.).  I never need to raise the volume knob past halfway (even though there is a lot more clean volume to be had beyond that point).  

I will post a more comprehensive review once I upgrade my speakers and give the amp some time to break in.  For now, though, I'm extremely pleased with it! 

Happy New Year!
Scott

p.s.  My system is analog only - Acoustic Signature Wow XL turntable and Avid Pellar phono stage.
smrex13
smrex13 OP
423 posts
 
I am still enjoying the Still amp immensely.  It has a very transparent sound, and the noise floor is non-existent.  I usually have a lot of noise in my system due to living in an older apartment complex - poor quality wiring and shared power with college kids who have wireless routers, computers, video games, etc.  The fact that this amp is almost silent through my speakers with the volume pot all the way open is remarkable.  

I really have nothing critical to say about the amp.  It's just a fantastic unit in every way.  My conundrum now is that the Contrast Audio speakers have settled in quite well, but the 10wpc of the Still Audio amp is not quite enough.  I can play music with peaks of about 75 db, and everything sounds rich and beautiful.  Beyond that, though, the sound starts to thin out quite a bit.  The bass is also somewhat limited due to the speaker-amp pairing.  I swapped in a 22wpc Audioengine desktop amp, and the bass depth and impact was significantly better.   The Audioengine amp certainly doesn't have the refinement or the transparency of the Still EL84, but the qualities I like about the speakers are still there.

So, I'm torn between shopping for very efficient speakers or a more powerful tube amp.  I believe that I underestimated how efficient speakers need to work well with a 10 watt amp.  And since I can't have large floor standing speakers, I'm even more limited by the number of speakers available to me.  

Will keep you posted on my journey, but I will say that the Still EL84 is a ridiculously good value, and a long-term solution for anyone with the appropriate speakers.  And Mark Still mentioned that he's working on a tube phono stage - I have to imagine the combo would be an endgame system for most people.

All the best, Scott
ghasley
382 posts
 
Dear Scott,

A couple of suggestions. 

First, reach out to the the company to see if the 5ar4 rectifier position would accept and/benefit by substituting a 5u4gb. All depends on his design but it seems your amp was possibly tubed for smoothness. For an inexpensive alternative you may consider some el84 or 12au7 tubes known for dynamics and impact. 

Second and more important, dont judge the amp performance on the contrast speakers. Those drivers they use are going to have a limited range regardless of their claims. Consider some well known speaker offerings...maybe Tekton, Omega, Ref 3a, Zu, Devore etc. you may also need to recognize that small bookshelves are not going to move alot of air and you need help from the room. Maybe something rear ported. Your room isnt terribly large and the 10 watts with the right speakers will run you out of the room. Also easy to drive speaker not just highly efficient speakers should be on the menu. Think about what you described “peaks of 75 db” which if you think about it, isnt even using 1 watt. Consider seriously that it is the speaker choice you have made and/or the room. Heck, i would wager that Harbeth compact 7’s would kill it in a room that size with bass you would be surprised by. Also, a wireless sub might be just what the room needs as well.

good luck.
smrex13 OP
423 posts
 
@ghasley Thanks for the recommendations on tubes.  I guess my dilemma is that I very much like the Contrast Audio speakers and the Still EL84.  Trying the solid state amp showed me that the speakers have more than enough bass for my room.  

So, I'm torn between finding an amp to drive the speakers and finding speakers that will work well with the amp.   

I know that speakers can significantly change the sound of my system.  The experiment with the ss amp confirmed that a change in amplification doesn't alter the basic sonic character of the system that I like so much.

Ideally, I would try both combinations - a more efficient speaker with the Still amp, and a more powerful amp with the Contrast Audio speakers.

Keep y'all posted,Scott




kalali's avatar
kalali
1,645 posts
 
I think what you need is a Pass XA30.5 or .8, depending on your budget. You’ll get the best of both worlds. Or keep the amp and consider 94+ dB speakers like Klipsch or Zu, etc. I’ve heard Klipsch Cornwalls with 8wpc SET amps and the bass was very satisfying.
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jmolsberg
143 posts
 
Happy new year! You bought the El84 amp 😊 now do yourself a favor and speak with Louis at Omega. His speakers are so involving and transparent with low powered set amps, it's mind-blowing. 

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