Quiet Enjoyment: right of audiophiles neighbors to NOT be annoyed


Quiet enjoyment: "A landlord must ensure the tenants’ rights to peacefully use and enjoy the rental property. "Quiet enjoyment" The right to not be annoyed by music being played loudly. A problem for folks who may be neighbors of audiophiles and other folks who play loud music. Run table saws and loud lawn mowers at 5AM. etc...
So for audiophiles, this raises some folks hackles.. They believe their right to blast music as loud as they want over-rules a neighbors right to peace and quiet. What say you?
Naturally this does not apply to folks out in the wilds, who can only annoy the bears and deer.
For me, the fact I live in an ’Over 55" (age 55 and up, mainly like 75 and up) complex, means lots of old ladies ready to pounce on any tiny problem so they can gossip over it endlessly, and stir up as much trouble as possible, since they have nothing else to do, so I have to be cautious about playing my stereo too loud.Now back in my youth, my Mother yelling TURN THAT $&#*@$ MUSIC DOWN!! over and over... Then later, say the 1980’s.. I still played music at Rock concert levels.. In a building full of young people, no one cared... I lived directly below the manager, whom I once awoke, and she thought a truck had hit he building.. THAT LOUD.. We laughed about it. All good. As I ’grew up" I started to stop being a jerk about blasting music. And now can say even the manager here, after my being here over eleven years, when asked, has said he never heard any music from my apartment, nor any complaints. Even though I play music all day every day.
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So for folks in multiple unit dwellings.. Apartments, condos.. even close together homes..Even family..Do you think you can annoy others to have an enjoyable listening session?
elizabeth
@mattmiller 
The way it oughta be!   Rock on!
1979 corner apartment in SE LA.  Just back from West-Pac cruise.  Navy deployment. Spent a few shekels at the Yokosuka Japan Naval Exchange.  That place was a Japanese Electronics Show!  Set the system up in the girlfriend  apartment when I got back.  Fire it up.  2 hrs later I hear someone pounding on the wall over the Styx album being played.  Answer the door. Very angry landlord lady screaming. Cannot hear her over music.  Wow I was pretty inconsiderate  at that age looking back. But I still strive for good tunes presented by good gear.
Having just started sharing walls again, this is a current consideration for me, and why I picked high sensitivity speakers, so I can hear detail at low volumes without bothering my neighbors, especially during “quiet hours”
I live in my own home, so don’t have to worry about the neighbors, at least I doubt it.

But, after reading some of the above, I have to wonder why we want to crank up the volume beyond what would be normal if you were listening in a ‘real world’ experience.

I listen to mostly classical and jazz, but also a fair amount of various ‘rock’ music at times. I am also guilty of playing my music very loud, but then started thinking about this ‘habit’ as too many times it just seemed unnatural, and in reality, too loud. So, I have taught myself to turn the volume up to where it would be natural for the music I listen to. Imagine myself in a concert hall, or a small club, or imagine if the band, musician, or orchestra, etc. were playing just for me on my couch in my living room. I then adjust the volume to where it would be most natural in a real live setting as a listener. And that’s were I Ieave it. I would say in most all cases, since I have been doing this, the volume is lower than what I may have used in the past. Sometimes by quite a bit. And I also realized all too often I’ve listened to my music at ‘unnaturally’ high volume levels. ‘Turn it to 11 !!’ ;-)

I also have large full range speakers, and a fairly small living space, so getting to the ‘realistic’ volume isn’t too hard to do, and still achieve good volume and full dynamic range. Or maybe I’m just getting old.

I’ve thought what it may be like if I moved into a condo/apartment when I get to the age of not being able, or wanting to, maintain a house, or able to climb the stairs, etc. But, I’m not going to worry about that right now. One thing I know, although I have fairly decent headphones, I really never use them as I feel you lose so much of the music expriance vs speakers which allow sound to fill a room. I do hope I’m not relegated to that in the future.


Elizabeth, your life listening experience certainly parallels mine. I surrendered my auditory future to Marshall amp stacks in the 60's and 70's. I'm glad my neighbors are not close by.  I have to turn up the volume to hear over my tinnitus. Was it worth it? Yes.
"I live in the country and can get away with upping the volume, but sound carries. There is a sound curfew out here too. I know, first hand. Yes sir, no sir, yes sir, no problem, consider the music turned down very low the rest of the night...*laffs"

I too live in the country. Neighbors about a quarter mile away are an extended family (parents, at least one adult child and spouse) in a huge house (about 7500 SF). Regularly anytime after 6 am until.... my home thumps from the bass. Not that I like calling law enforcement, but as the parents and adult son are ALL members of the local small city sheriff’s department I don’t even bother trying!