RIAA, Questions only please


I have closed the previous thread on RIAA and concluded that very few indeed understand the curves or the purpose. Here is my closing statement from that thread. For those who want to understand and have valid well stated questions I am happy to answer. 

Not wanting to leave the party without a clear and accurate statement I will say the following:

The answer to the question concerning noise reduction is that the simple filter that RIAA decided upon was to raise the high frequencies gradually by about 12 dB starting below 500 Hz, being up 3 dB at the 500 Hz pole. The circuit then cancells the pole with a zero at 2,200 Hz and there is then 3 dB of boosting left as one goes to 20 Khz. It is all done very gently with just two resistors and two capacitors.

By reversing this process on playback we get to enjoy 12 dB less noise above 500 Hz.

The RIAA part of things is the same for all cartridges. However we are accustomed to seeing RIAA combined with the 6 dB/octave compensation for a velocity cartridge. That takes off 12 dB, and along with two things that happen at the very ends of the response, brings the total EQ for a velocity cartridge to 40 dB. Next time you look at an RIAA curve ask yourself why there is that flat bench between 500 and 2,200 Hz.

An amplitude cartridge needs only the RIAA EQ of 12 dB. Which also speaks to the fact that the majority of the spectrum of a record is cut at constant amplitude. When you put a sewing needle in a paper cup and play the record you are getting amplitude playback not velocity.

I study these things because they interest me. Anyone can look up the parts values to make an RIAA filter or inverse RIAA. What interests me is that some manufacturers still get it wrong.

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Dear @clio09  : Thank's for that because in this same forum several members told me many times something like: " stop to post in this thread " and from many internet audio forums I was banned because the way I'm and because my problems with english language.

Yes, sometimes I have to push people trying to all move on for we all try to go in deep in some audio subject for all we can learn about. People do not like that some one disturb they taking out/off of their confort seat/zone but my intentions always is to help other gentlemans including my self. No one knows every thing about every single audio subject even if some " experts " ( like reviewers . ) think they know everything on every subject.

R.
At this point it would interest me to hear from designers (of cartridge transducers and phono electronics) about their opinions on measurements and 'what matters'.

So far frequency response (and corrective eq to achieve it) is the primary topic. This is not the only factor for quality of sound reproduction. It may be of lesser importance than many believe...

My mention (in the last thread) of adjustable eq to factor in cart/cable/preamp interaction was ignored.

Thanks @imhififan. Wasn't the author Gary A. Galo involved with Audio Amateur magazine?
@imhififan  http://hifisonix.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Disc-Recording-Equalization-Demystified.pd...

Thanks for sharing this. We need more of you finding articles of quality. As you can see the author found the subject difficult too but made some good points I had not known previously.