Musical Fidelity kw DM 25 Transport and DAC

Mert,

I have just noticed, that this is your first post on Audiogon.

You prolly do not know then, that one of the biggest AudiogoN's assets, is freedom of speech. Everyone can express his opinions on any given product.

Kjgp asked about opinions, and I gave him mine. To make it complete, I even gave him details where I have heard it and how did it sound to my ears.

If you feel compelled to attack everyone who dares to have different opinion than you do, you should rather go back to your marine forums.

Elbe2
I have seen your posts about M.F. gear a lot. You always commented bad on M.F. even you had never had one. If you knew a bit about this business, you shouldn't have said ''sounded thin and bright to my ears'' upssss. what a sharp ear you have...under show conditions your razor sharp ears found out kw dm25's trick. answer these questions please: 1)since when Sonus Faber range sound bright and thin?
2) Technically justify that front end of a system determines the final output quality?
3) how come amplifiers, cables, speakers, power treatment pruducts, room acoustics, size.......plays secondary role in a setup?
4) Are we paid by Musical Fidelity? in other words we make our living with promoting kw dm25? (we are: M.T. , Michael Fremer, Ken Kessler,the guys just positively recommended above, John Atkinson who gave ''A'' put kwdm25 in recommended comp.
5) how do you name your school of view of Hi-End components? because you just brought 2.dimension to Hi-End.

Too much freedom sometimes kill the cat.

For the comment that MF products are poorly engineered, could you give a specific example or two of this poor engineering? zmy experience is quite the opposite.

LOL, you learn new things everyday.

Since I just been officially labelled "Musical Fidelity hater", I think I have to go back and start some MF hate threads.

I confess, that in my 300+ posts on Audiogon, I have only once mentioned MF (in this thread), but from now on, as an official MF hater, I promise to do better !

Mert,

I feel I must come to Elberoth2's defense. He was very specific in that he said he heard it at a HiFi show in London. I heard a similar setup at Rocky Mountain Audiofest last year and came to the same conclusion as did my mother who has better ears than I do. We lasted about 5 minutes in the room as the system was bright even with the SF speakers.

System:
KW Pre
KW 750 Amp.
KW Transport
KW Dac
Audioquest cabeling throught.
SF Amati

Elberoth, After doing some looking I don't think you have bashed MF before as Mert has said. But in his defence I spent 2 hours with the above system minus the transport in the dealer show room and it was like wow night and day difference. Now this show room was designed by Rives and is a spectactular place to listen to a system. Oh the transport was a theta data basic II sound familar. I was comparing my Tri-Vista DAC to the KW DAC.

For the comparison the same cables were used, actually swaped between units for the test except for the power cables. Power cable for the KW DAC was stock. Power cable for the TriVista was a Audio Magic Extream Master. The digital IC was Synergistic Research Digital Corridor Phase II active. The IC was a SR Kalidiscope Phase I Active. The conclusion on my part was the KW was a touch and I mean a touch brighter than the TriVista. In all other respects they were equal. Now in the salesman's conclusion the bass of the KW was a little looser than the TriVista.

Unfortunitally due to some technical difficulties we were unable to put the KW Transport to the test VS the Theta.

Elberoth2 as far as MF being porely engineered I would disagree. After talking with Steve Nugent about the Tri-Vista CDP. It is not a bad player yes it can be improved with mods but most players can.

Ok that is enough for the night.