Does anyone out there NOT hear a difference in CD


Players? I am tossing around the idea of replacing my Pioneer Elite PD-65 with a Cambridge Audio 840c, but only if their is a CLEAR improvement. In the past I have had a difficult time hearing a noticeable difference in CD players from cheap ones to higher mid-fi ones.
fruff1976
I agree with Shadorne, and feel if you really want to hear a substantial difference you will but in reality it is very subtle to not even detectable far too often. Phono carts, Speakers and Pre and Power amps are a whole other animal but digital is within certain price points just digital, but again if you want to hear a major difference then you will.

05-27-08: Chadnliz
...in reality it is very subtle to not even detectable far too often.
Reality is defined by system resolution.

The reality is that each listener will have a different idea of what is detectable since his/her system's resolution will differ from others.

Until system resolution is increased, differences in sources will be subtle, if undetectable.

Here's an example. Until yesterday, I was considering selling my MP-1 preamp. Not enough midrange and bass weight...yada, yada, yada. Then, I swapped in a new power cord on my digital source (APL Denon 3910). Whoa. The midrange and bass returned in spades. One power cord swap made all the difference, and it was not subtle. If my system was less resolving, I doubt I would have had any issue with the MP-1 to start...let alone heard a difference in a power cord swap on my digital source.

Please understand I am not criticizing anyone's system. I only know from my experience how perception changes as equipment changes. I completely understand why someone would say changing digital sources would not make much difference, and I suspect this is true for the OP, but this observation cannot be generalized to all systems or system elements.

(donning the Nomex now...)
Answers will vary:

$10k rig "There's no difference"
$20k rig "Sometimes I think I hear a difference"
$30k rig "There are subtle differences"
$40k rig "Some Players are definitely better than others"
$50k+ rig "The cdp is a make or break proposition"

Shift the numbers around a bit for more fun.
Where does all this misinformation come from? Let's use an old player as a transport, when one can get an OPPO or Toshiba, then potentially mod it by the right technician, and have great sound for a lot less monies. The digital era is just beginning to give birth to itself. If one limits their investment it will not sting as much when the next best generation hits the line. It still bends my mind to see these responses, for the sake of watching there name come up on line. Please stop misleading the younger generation with unwise advise. It will help to build up the integrity of this site, not tear it down.
who's mis-information Joe?

I hear changes in and employ after market cords, isolation feet and play with signal cables and have been in several truely jaw dropping demo's of varied products and devices that I wasnt prepared for and skeptical at best to what I figured would be the result. When I hear it I tell the world but if I dont I tell that also, for example my Lexicon player (laugh now) is notably better than a Sony or basic big box store offering but my fathers Esoteric model 60 player doesnt trump it by much if any at all, I have used a couple DACS with several wires and varied players as transports along with power cords but I just cant justify them for the price, rack space and added wire expense. Maybe its about this magical synergy that I cant find or my system or ears is crap, my system isnt great but my hearing isnt bad and neither is sub-par but if this digital synergy is so hit and miss then it needs to be stated that more than likely the chances are many items simply cant be detected as better or worse...and that saves money and this hobbies troubled cred with the new folks entering.