Kuzma 4Point Tri-Planar


Does anyone have direct experience with these two tonearms? I own Tri-Planar, I love it and would like to add either 4Point or Graham to use with Orpheus. Thanks!
mgerhardt
My experiences with arms are that damping arm tubes smears the sound. I have removed all the damping from many arms both pivoted and tangential tracking and in every case it released significantly more detail, though in some cases a lightened quality to the sound my not suit some people. Often VTA was often set incorrectly to compensate for the damped, slugged sound.
As stated above, at every connection and change in material there will be both transmission away from the cartridge and backward reflection of energy back toward the cartridge.
So you can either sink the energy to ground through careful design and use of successive materials that encourage more energy to travel away from the cartridge and less backward reflection and/or use materials that dissipate unwanted energy, examples would be carbon fibre, which can dissipate energy as heat.
Damping tends to store energy and then release it later in an uncontrolled or out of phase manner, thus smearing the sound, eg rubber.
My gut feel would be that wood behaves more like a damped armtube than one that dissipates energy.
Unless you are using different woods to optimise the effective mass of the arm for the cartridge I cant see that its use is anything other than a tone control.
As one who has just come out of the timber industry I can assure you that no 2 pieces of wood will sound the same, even from the same part of the tree, if they do, it is a fluke.
My experiences with arms are that damping arm tubes smears the sound. I have removed all the damping from many arms both pivoted and tangential tracking and in every case it released significantly more detail, though in some cases a lightened quality to the sound my not suit some people. Often VTA was often set incorrectly to compensate for the damped, slugged sound.
As stated above, at every connection and change in material there will be both transmission away from the cartridge and backward reflection of energy back toward the cartridge.
So you can either sink the energy to ground through careful design and use of successive materials that encourage more energy to travel away from the cartridge and less backward reflection and/or use materials that dissipate unwanted energy, examples would be carbon fibre, which can dissipate energy as heat.
Damping tends to store energy and then release it later in an uncontrolled or out of phase manner, thus smearing the sound, eg rubber.
My gut feel would be that wood behaves more like a damped armtube than one that dissipates energy.
Unless you are using different woods to optimise the effective mass of the arm for the cartridge I cant see that its use is anything other than a tone control.
As one who has just come out of the timber industry I can assure you that no 2 pieces of wood will sound the same, even from the same part of the tree, if they do, it is a fluke.
Dear Dover, I would second your observations and conclusions. They go hand in hand with mine.
Which may result that there will be always listeners who prefer fast energy transfer and listeners who go rather for a damped armtube - with sometimes gives a more pleasing, forgiving sound.
I am definitely in the camp of as fast as possible energy transfer.
Each his own.
Wood is certainly not superior as tonearm wand material versus metal ( to be determined what metallurgy ...) - it is a different approach, with a different concept and leads most likely to different results.
Good that there are different ways and different ideas of the "ideal" - isn't it?
Dertonam,

Thanks - you raise a good point in terms of "different ideas". I have had in the past many audio customers from Europe, US, UK, Asia as well as Australia & New Zealand. I have noticed that different cultures have different priorities, not only in musical choice, but how the music is presented through their systems. So yes I agree, whilst we can agree on the science, we may still have different preferences in terms of building our audio systems. No system is perfect, so there will always be some compromise.