Brinkmann Bardo

But the Bardo-user will be that much closer to knowing the meaning of life.

Hi,

I crudely measured the start up time to about 8 seconds. For me, ti is not a big deal; the belt table I had before was just as slow to start up and the speed change on this table is very good. The speed stability is pretty excellent.

Audiofeil,

What is the sonic difference betw. Bardo & Oasis?

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I've been following your replies about the dual eds motors on this thread and found them most informative ... I've been doing searches for a while and there's not that much info around on the eds motors.
I know this thread is about the Bardo but this seems like a good opportunity so hopefully I won't derail this thread too much.
I have the motor and electronics from a dual 701 and have been considering using them in a diy turntable.
Would you suggest any mods? or replacement of parts like capacitors on the small round board before proceeding further?
The main reason I'm contacting you is that I also have the motor & electronics from a revox dd and the motor looks almost the same as the dual except that the bottom is different and the electronics look somewhat more complicated.
My question then ... is the the Revox motor also a good ... or better? ... choice for a diy dd turntable?
Any advice would be much appreciated.

I wonder if that 12 seconds to speed is a conservative number. I spun a few LP's tonight on a fully automatic Dual TT located in my den. I started it manually, moved the arm over, waited 12 seconds, then lowered the arm. The whole process took about 16 seconds by the time the TT started playing music, 20 seconds total to be seated with a drink in hand. It seems like a very long time if you aren't used to it. Spec for the Dual EDS to reach nominal speed is 2 to 2.5 seconds. I'm so used to pressing the auto start button and being seated with a drink in hand by the time the music starts playing, which is <5 seconds. A dealer near me in NYC now has a Bardos. I'll do a demo this weekend and bring a speed disk to see just how long it takes to cruise. The other TT he has of interest to me is the Artemis Labs SA-1 designed by Frank Schroder. I'm told it beats the Bardos in everything hands down, and is about $2K cheaper in price. It's not direct drive, but has an innovative tape drive system that uses 1/4" magnetic reel tape, instead of rubber or string, to drive the platter. Nice thing is that you can make your own "belts" from old reels. The tape drive system is kept taught by a tensioning lever bearing. You won't see this on any other TT, and I've become very interested in this technology.

http://www.soundscapehifi.com/artemis-labs-sa-1.htm

Best Regards and kudos to a good thread...