Getting Into Analog-Vinyl For The First Time......


Hello All:

I haven't posted here in quite a while, and if and when I did, it was usually me asking for and soliciting advice with respect for Home Theater.

But before getting into Home Theater, I was an audiophile first, and to this day, I still am.

Now, this gets me to this situation.

First off, I am sorry that my father has passed away and did so almost two months ago. But now, with his passing, I get to be the lucky one to inherit his vinyl collection, which I will add to the vinyl that I have already acquired and will still acquire in the future.

After calling around to analog specialty chains over the last week (namely, Music Direct, Acoustic Sounds, Needle Doctor and Disc Elusive), namely to get suggestions for a Turntable/Arm System, Phono Cartridge and a Phono Stage. What I will be listening to on this Table is mainly 1960's and 1970's R&B, Jazz and some Rock and Pop.

The tables I was looking at so far are:

(01). Pro-Ject RM-5 SE (w/Sumiko Blue Point No. 2 Phono Cartridge) -- $1,000.00

(02). Rega P3-24/Rega RB301 (but will mount a Sumiko Blue Point Special into the RB301) -- $895.00

(03). Music Hall MMF 5.1 (w/Goldring GL-2200 MM Phono Cartridge, but would like to change it over to an Moving Coil, even if means extending the cartridge budget to $400.00 to $500.00).

And of those three, I have my heart set on the Pro-Ject RM-5 SE (but that doesn't mean that the other two are out of the running. Because, what matter most is how the table will interact with the rest of my system, and will it get the most of what I want to get out of my records with the least amount of wear possible. Most of the records I am going to inherit are between 30 and 50 years old).

But now, my concern is the Phono Stage more than anything. What I am going to do is start out with an inexpensive Phono Stage (like one of the Pro-Jects or the Musical Fidelity V-LPS) and just go for broke and spend my money on the Turntable/Tone Arm/Phono Cartridge this year, and then just go ahead and upgrade to a better Phono Stage next year (when my budget for this component will be about $1,000.00).

For the Phono Stage (that is priced higher than one the Pro-Jects or the Musical Fidelity V-LPS), they're going to include the:

(01). Clearaudio Basic Plus

(02). Music Surroundings Phonomena II

(03). Simaudio Moon 110 LP.

The sound I am going after is one that is of "rhytmic incisiveness", an open and holographic soundtage, wide dynamic range with extension in the top-end and in the bass.

Will a combination of one of these give that sound that I am wanting to get from my vinyl???? Or are there other Phono Stages in the $500.00 to $1,000.00 price range I need to consider???

I am pretty much set on the table right now. It will ultimately be the Pro-Ject RM-5 SE or the Rega P3-24.

The rest of my system is as follows:

Speakers: KEF Reference 102 w/KUBE
Amp: Adcom GFA-545 Mk II
Pre-Amp: Adcom GFP-750 Line Stage (designed and built by Nelson Pass)
Cables: Audioquest will be used throughout
Power Protection: Brickwall or Tripp Lite.

I know this is rather lengthy, but this was the best way of explaining my situation and what I am hoping to get accomplished.

Thanks in advance for any replies that may come my way.

Regards....

--Charles--
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If you go Rega and you have a little wiggle room on the money, I'd sure go for the P5 over the P3/24. It would be worth the minimal extra money just to get the RB700 tonearm over the RB301.

If you go mail order there are a fair number of decent tables at $1100-1500, such as the Origin Live Aurora Mk II, Sota Comet, the Marantz, Clearaudio Concept, Music Hall MMF 7.1, and the Pro-Ject Xperience Classic.
Am I reading something wrong,,your system list a Scoutmaster!So you already
have a nice TT and phonostage?
Assuming you sold the VPI ??? Then I agree the Rega has a long track record and a large list of admirers. I would add a Graham Slee phono stage to your choices but the Musical Surroundings again is very popular. I think it has a lot of options for load etc.
I would buy a VPI Scoutmaster if that is in your sights over all other choices BTW. I love my VPI.
I would go for the 3/24 with a simple phono stage such as the Project Tube Box. It will keep you satisfied at a modest cost and then bring good resale after a year or two when you figure out what you really want. The Scouts are fine, but I think the Rega is more plug and play, as opposed to the VPI that require some skill to set up the unipivot tonearm.
Also take a look at the PS Audio GCPH. You can find them new for around $600 and they can be used as a stand alone pre amp. Extremely clean mids and highs, fast tight low end and dead quiet.