Tron Seven Phono


Hi there!

I have a standart Tron Seven Phono from 2006.

I´m am quit happy with it, i think........ I havent tryed others on my current setup, so i dont know "better".
I have read that many others is quit happy with the Tron Phono, so why shuldnt i be?

But i have the past mounth been thinking about what it can and can not. It sounds great with my Lyra Delos, but the Tron is a pluk and play phono. There is NO settings........ So how can i be serten that i get the full out of my cart?

Can any explain me how the Tron Seven Phono works and why it has`nt any setings. Other Phonos are packd with different settings so you can set the recomanded load or any other settings.

That why i`m beginning to questions the Tron Seven Phono..... But do i have any reasent to question it???
pierre1976
A friend has the Tron 7. I've heard it in his system and in another friend's system. It is a very nice phonostage.

The manufacturer insists that it has been tuned specifically for the tubes that come with the unit and that alternatives will not sound better. I think that what sounds "better" is a matter of taste/system matching and it is actually unlikely that what Tron supplied will be "optimal."

In both friend's system, all three listeners, myself included, preferred different 12AX7 tubes than what came with the Tron. The owner ended up going with Amperex Bugle Boy 12AX7s (the other friend has a VAST selection of alternatives). I would suggest at least trying some alternatives.

We did not mess around with loading. The sound happened to be decent at the manufacturer's preset loading (I believe the cartridges in the two systems were a Lyra Helikon and an Ortofon Per Winfield.

I too wonder about manufaturer's that don't make it easy to try different loading. From experience, most cartridges sound acceptable with loading of 100-150, so one can get away with fixed loading somewhere in that range. Still, with some setups, I actually like very little loading for a more wide open sound (e.g., 47k loading).

You could at least experiment with loading by either soldering in additional resistors yourself. If the Tron 7 has a step up transformer at the input (I believe it does), you will have to decide where to experiment with loading. My own phonostage (Viva fono), has a step up transformer and fixed loading. I found (by opening it up) that the manufacturer had placed loading resistors across the back of the input jack. In other words, the loading was on the primary side. The alternative would be resistors after the transformer (secondary loading). I disconnected one leg of the resistor so I could experiment with differnt loading. I then bought Radio Shack RCA jacks and adaptors, and a variety pack of resistors to make plug in loading jacks with different values. Interestingly, I ended up going with the value that came with from the manufacturer (actually not that surprising since, I found out later, the unit was optimized for the Transfiguration Orpheus, the same cartridge I use). With step up transformers, you can drive yourself crazy with experimenting with loading because, as mentioned above, you can try loading before or after the transformer, or a combination of both.

If you are not that technically inclined, don't mess with loading with a unit with fixed loading. If you have the itch to experiment, start with changing the tubes.
David12...if you don't mind my asking, what was the problem with your Raven One?
Moonglum, Speed control went haywire,it stated revolving about 500RPM, very alarming. evidently it can be due to static build up, though it has'nt happened to TW before. So Thomas sent a new motor and controller free, worth over £1000 and Graham fitted it free. You can't say fairer than that. graham earthed the motor, so it can't happen again.
David12

What i know is that TW has a lot of static problem with the motors. I know of my own problems and 3 others here in scandinavia.
All of us, got the same messege. It has`nt happend before!!!

Now you speak of it too. So i think that static problem is a cummon problem with TW`s motor......

I have had my motor and controlor replaced, due to static problems. But i still LOVE my Raven One :-)
Pierre,
Graham Tricker builds his TRON phono stages to order. The TRON Seven has been upgraded since 2006, I believe. Whilst having multiple settings can be convenient, the dip switches could possibly degrade the ultimate sound quality like any other connection/switch. GT can modify your TRON to suit other cartridges if you like, or upgrade your Seven to current specification. The current Seven phono range has several models including an ultimate model with separate valve regulated PSU, silver wiring, bespoke components etc (at a price!).
If you’re happy with yours, why change? I have had the same TRON Meteor preamp with on board phono since about 2003/4. I am really happy and don’t see any reason to change.
Charlie