My system is bright? I need help. thanks

Scientist73, if you moved your speakers close to the back wall, I hope it wasn't based on my post, because this is not what I suggested. The sound you are hearing with the speakers closer to the wall...the boominess and lack of three dimensionality...is exactly why they should not be placed there.

I suggested spreading the speakers farther apart by one to two feet while leaving them the same distance from the rear wall as they were before.

Perhaps there is a reason that I don't understand that precludes you from trying the wider positioning? Did you ever try moving your chair closer to the speakers (before you moved them toward the rear wall) to listen for the difference?

Anyhow, I'd suggest re-reading my post above for my recommendation. Others agreed with the technique, and I feel strongly that you would hear improvments over what you had before.

Good luck.

Tvad, The problem in trying to help Scientist73 is fundamentally we don't have a basic undertanding of his room. We don't even really know its dimensions, we don't know where his listening position possibilities are, ad infinitum ad naseum.

I think a major factor which is not being considered is that these are 3 way speakers and I doubt they were intended to be used as 'nearfield' monitors. My last speakers (before Tylers) were a three way system using Dynaudio drivers, much as the Andrea's. When you listen in the nearfield the tweeter predominates the sound as the tweeter is closer to you and it has not really blended with the mid and woof.

I would guess that these speakers would sound best if the drivers were about 9 to 10 feet apart, the listening position was 10' back and the speakers were 4 to 5 ft from the wall behind them. By crossing the axis of the speakers as I suggested earlier you can actually get close side wall placement, there is no sonic downside to close sidewall placement other than these reflections.

Unfortunately we do not what is even possible. I suspect that he has room set up limitations, or he has some asthetic limitations, or sonic predispositions, which he has not told us about.

But, Scientist73, you would not be the first person to discover the hard way that buying highly regarded equipment and plunking it down in a room that it sounds poorly and then tries to patch it together with different stuff, without understanding and attacking basic set up issues first, and ultimately after gaining an education the hard way (money and time wise) ends up essentially starting from scratch. Been there, done that! I think many of us have, especially us set up freaks. :-)

FWIW, Scientist73, time to start getting analytical about your problems. There really is no quick cure for your problems if you really want to get the value out of your present equipment. If you really want some help from this forum, take a moment to provide a concise description of your room, its openings, its furnishings including locations of windows, furniture, etc. Just put it in words with descriptive descriptions. We can draw diagrams in our minds. There are some very knowlegable set up folks here who can help, but everyone is presently shooting in the dark in trying to help you.

FWIW :-)

I think a major factor which is not being considered is that these are 3 way speakers and I doubt they were intended to be used as 'nearfield' monitors.
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I listen to my three way Von Schweikert VR4 Gen III in a nearfield set-up and it sounds phenomenal. The musicians are in the room. I don't believe one can make generalities about nearfield versus farfield set-ups based solely upon on loudspeaker design. One has to actually TRY the possibilities to know what works and what does not.

Guys. i can send you an accurate layout as an email attachement i can have it ready by tomorrow with all dimensions and everything.
But to what email to send the attachement to.
I tried to do here but it si onlt test message. i can even take pics and send it.

let me know
thanks

10-09-06: Scientist73
Guys. i can send you an accurate layout as an email attachement i can have it ready by tomorrow with all dimensions and everything.

Thanks, but I'm going to pass on your offer.

IMO, you can experience the results first hand...and quicker...by experimenting with placement as previously suggested.

If it works, terrific. If it doesn't, then IMO it'll be time to investigate alternative speakers or electronics.